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Correct, all valid points. But we can assign numbers to all these things and the error bars are sufficiently large that there is ample room for debate. As for 2

Correct, all valid points. But we can assign numbers to all these things and the error bars are sufficiently large that there is ample room for debate. As for 2. is it obvious? My niece doesn't know that there are other humans like her, I would gladly take a year at the end of my life to give that gift to her. Given the current vaccination rates, many people will not see normal until 2022. For 3. it cuts both ways, how many new alcoholic parents and child abuse that ruins an entire lifetime?

xkjkls 5y ago
> is it obvious? My niece doesn't know that there are other humans like her, I would gladly take a year at the end of my life to give that gift to her. I'm not sure she is going to agree with you when she visits you toward the end of your life. > For 3. it cuts both ways, how many new alcoholic parents and child abuse that ruins an entire lifetime? It's far from obvious what the effects of COVID-19 are on child abuse. The data is hard to disaggregate because there are so many conflicting factors, but there isn't obvious reason to believe that child abuse is up during the pandemic given the data we have seen: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/419961/child-abuse-surges-times-crisis-pandemic-may-be-different https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/419961/child-abuse-surges-...
- hervature 5y ago
  > I'm not sure That sounds like it is not obvious. > The data is hard to disaggregate because there are so many conflicting factors Basically sums up COVID policies. The point remains, I have yet to see any clear objective policy making that even tries to estimate impact on life of all citizens. In absence of anything resembling a consideration of all age groups, I just ignore any opinion of lockdown both for and against.
whimsicalism 5y ago
Important to keep in mind about the YLL numbers I cited: most of the YLL comes from younger people who died early, even though most of the deaths are among people 70+. So if you are going by this "differential quality of different years" argument, you have to account for the fact that most of these years actually aren't for really old people.

xkjkls 5y ago

> is it obvious? My niece doesn't know that there are other humans like her, I would gladly take a year at the end of my life to give that gift to her. I'm not sure she is going to agree with you when she visits you toward the end of your life. > For 3. it cuts both ways, how many new alcoholic parents and child abuse that ruins an entire lifetime? It's far from obvious what the effects of COVID-19 are on child abuse. The data is hard to disaggregate because there are so many conflicting factors, but there isn't obvious reason to believe that child abuse is up during the pandemic given the data we have seen: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/419961/child-abuse-surges-times-crisis-pandemic-may-be-different https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/419961/child-abuse-surges-...

hervature 5y ago
> I'm not sure That sounds like it is not obvious. > The data is hard to disaggregate because there are so many conflicting factors Basically sums up COVID policies. The point remains, I have yet to see any clear objective policy making that even tries to estimate impact on life of all citizens. In absence of anything resembling a consideration of all age groups, I just ignore any opinion of lockdown both for and against.

whimsicalism 5y ago

Important to keep in mind about the YLL numbers I cited: most of the YLL comes from younger people who died early, even though most of the deaths are among people 70+. So if you are going by this "differential quality of different years" argument, you have to account for the fact that most of these years actually aren't for really old people.