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At which point almost nobody would download Facebook, just like almost nobody uses anything except the Play Store on Android. Also Apple could easily implement

by yyyk 6y ago

At which point almost nobody would download Facebook, just like almost nobody uses anything except the Play Store on Android. Also Apple could easily implement blocks on the OS level. The walled garden just lets Apple siphon 30% alongside anti-competitive practices.

ericmay 6y ago
Until other companies also move to a third party App Store. Why wouldn't they? And I'm fine with Apple siphoning off 30%. Make it 40%! I'd rather developers stop developing for iOS than to see any large changes in the App Store model. There are enough apps as it is.
- idle_zealot 6y ago
  > Until other companies also move to a third party App Store. Why wouldn't they? While I don’t know the exact reason, this isn’t what’s happened on Android, which has always allowed multiple app stores. Everything mainstream is on Google’s Play Store, and quality FOSS apps get published to F-Droid. My theory is that users shy away from sideloading alternative app stores, even if it’s not very difficult to do so.
  - ericmay 6y ago
    I think it's because the Google Play Store allows the behavior that Apple is banning, so why bother? I don't think users would shy away from mainstream apps like Facebook if they moved to another app store platform.
    - yyyk 6y ago
      The Play Store takes 30%, in addition to their own set of restrictions. Surely 30% must be a large motivator for some mainstream apps moving to another store - it just turns out few users on Android will go for that.
      - ericmay 6y ago
        Why would Facebook care about the 30%? They care about being allowed to track users (as Google does).
        yyyk 5y ago
        Because 30% is big money. FB might be able to compensate enough, but plenty of apps can't. There should have been enough pull to have a SpotifyStore and an UberStore, or even a SpotifyUberStore. Yet it doesn't happen at all.
        ericmay 5y ago
        What is Google charging Facebook 30% for? In-app transactions?
- yyyk 6y ago
  Everyone will still have to use Apple's store, especially given Apple PR makes sure to promote a cult-like adherence to anything Apple. Even fortnite couldn't survive outside the Play Store. It doesn't happen on Android, why would it on iOS? The only thing a 3rd party store support will do is to ensure Apple couldn't abuse FOSS apps too much in their review process.

by yyyk 6y ago

ericmay 6y ago

Until other companies also move to a third party App Store. Why wouldn't they? And I'm fine with Apple siphoning off 30%. Make it 40%! I'd rather developers stop developing for iOS than to see any large changes in the App Store model. There are enough apps as it is.

idle_zealot 6y ago
> Until other companies also move to a third party App Store. Why wouldn't they? While I don’t know the exact reason, this isn’t what’s happened on Android, which has always allowed multiple app stores. Everything mainstream is on Google’s Play Store, and quality FOSS apps get published to F-Droid. My theory is that users shy away from sideloading alternative app stores, even if it’s not very difficult to do so.
- ericmay 6y ago
  I think it's because the Google Play Store allows the behavior that Apple is banning, so why bother? I don't think users would shy away from mainstream apps like Facebook if they moved to another app store platform.
  - yyyk 6y ago
    The Play Store takes 30%, in addition to their own set of restrictions. Surely 30% must be a large motivator for some mainstream apps moving to another store - it just turns out few users on Android will go for that.
    - ericmay 6y ago
      Why would Facebook care about the 30%? They care about being allowed to track users (as Google does).
      - yyyk 5y ago
        Because 30% is big money. FB might be able to compensate enough, but plenty of apps can't. There should have been enough pull to have a SpotifyStore and an UberStore, or even a SpotifyUberStore. Yet it doesn't happen at all.
        ericmay 5y ago
        What is Google charging Facebook 30% for? In-app transactions?
yyyk 6y ago
Everyone will still have to use Apple's store, especially given Apple PR makes sure to promote a cult-like adherence to anything Apple. Even fortnite couldn't survive outside the Play Store. It doesn't happen on Android, why would it on iOS? The only thing a 3rd party store support will do is to ensure Apple couldn't abuse FOSS apps too much in their review process.