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> things pushing niche workflows that the Gnome team didn't consider On the other hand Gnome3 is the first Linux desktop that I think is really non power user

> things pushing niche workflows that the Gnome team didn't consider On the other hand Gnome3 is the first Linux desktop that I think is really non power user friendly. The laptop my partner uses at home is a slightly old Thinkpad I put Fedora on last year and it took her about 20 minutes to work out to use everything (less time than she took on a Mac). I think the Gnome developers have been pretty hostile to outside input and could have done a better job. But the fact that they've had a clear direction and haven't implemented everybody's personal preference has resulted in a coherent result without unnecessary cruft.

dleslie 5y ago
My non-power-user wife, father and mother all prefer MATE. It works like Windows, which they are accustomed to. Edit: I don't get why this was down-voted, but OK.
rthomas6 5y ago
> On the other hand Gnome3 is the first Linux desktop that I think is really non power user friendly. I think Plasma and Cinnamon also belong in this group.
- codemac 5y ago
  Considering Cinnamon is a fork of Gnome 3, it seems to be significant evidence of Gnome 3's influence. And Plasma was first released in 2014, 3 years after Gnome 3. Gnome 3 had a HUGE affect on desktop environments, due to Gnome 2's popularity.
  - sangnoir 5y ago
    Plasma's predecessor (KDE 3) is closer to Gnome that Plasma itself. Plasma is as close to an antithesis of Gnome as you could get (outside of tiling window managers) - everything is customizable/extensible
  - barrkel 5y ago
    Cinnamon basically makes Gnome feel more like Windows.
- rkangel 5y ago
  I need to spend more time trying other things - I got bored of distro hopping years ago when I discovered that Fedora would mostly Just Work. One thing I will say is that it's not just down to the desktop - all the main pieces need to be good and compatible and configured correctly for an overall smooth and intuitive experience. Gnome on Fedora does that.

dleslie 5y ago

My non-power-user wife, father and mother all prefer MATE. It works like Windows, which they are accustomed to. Edit: I don't get why this was down-voted, but OK.

rthomas6 5y ago

> On the other hand Gnome3 is the first Linux desktop that I think is really non power user friendly. I think Plasma and Cinnamon also belong in this group.

codemac 5y ago
Considering Cinnamon is a fork of Gnome 3, it seems to be significant evidence of Gnome 3's influence. And Plasma was first released in 2014, 3 years after Gnome 3. Gnome 3 had a HUGE affect on desktop environments, due to Gnome 2's popularity.
- sangnoir 5y ago
  Plasma's predecessor (KDE 3) is closer to Gnome that Plasma itself. Plasma is as close to an antithesis of Gnome as you could get (outside of tiling window managers) - everything is customizable/extensible
- barrkel 5y ago
  Cinnamon basically makes Gnome feel more like Windows.
rkangel 5y ago
I need to spend more time trying other things - I got bored of distro hopping years ago when I discovered that Fedora would mostly Just Work. One thing I will say is that it's not just down to the desktop - all the main pieces need to be good and compatible and configured correctly for an overall smooth and intuitive experience. Gnome on Fedora does that.