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No but the rest of society is no longer victimized or harmed. Why do we just let drug users trash our public spaces and commit so much destruction? Does that no

No but the rest of society is no longer victimized or harmed. Why do we just let drug users trash our public spaces and commit so much destruction? Does that not have a toll on society and everyone else’s quality of life? What about all the stuff they steal daily? I don’t see other developed countries bend over so far to accommodate criminals and drug addicts and frankly our strategy isn’t working at all—these populations just get bigger every year....

wonderwonder 5y ago
If they are stealing, committing vandalism or generally victimizing others then yes I absolutely agree they should be punished. My main point was I disagree with arresting people for possession of narcotics. Once it crosses over from a victimless crime to something else then I agree.
- diogenescynic 5y ago
  Prop 47 and 57 turned most of California cities into slums. Now you can steal up to $950 a day and use drugs openly and camp anywhere you want--a great foundation for any functioning society. Almost every large city in California has a few streets of blocks where they just push all the homeless and trash piles up, you see open bike chop shops pop up, there are super sketchy pimps/prostitutes. I just think we are allowing someone who has a drug addiction to descend to an even deeper downward spiral. I think Neo-liberals tell themselves that they have to not further harm these marginalized folks, but really it's just the the further soft bigotry of low expectations. My dad was a drug addict and the only time I saw him get sober was after he was incarcerated. I don't think the people out there sleeping under bridges and pushing carts full of trash are getting help, society is just letting them rot until they die off and neoliberals like Nancy Pelosi can just ignore them like a meaningless statistic. Republicans straight up don't care either, but I've never seen lower levels of human despair and drug addiction than in San Francisco or other deeply blue democrat run states.

wonderwonder 5y ago

If they are stealing, committing vandalism or generally victimizing others then yes I absolutely agree they should be punished. My main point was I disagree with arresting people for possession of narcotics. Once it crosses over from a victimless crime to something else then I agree.

diogenescynic 5y ago
Prop 47 and 57 turned most of California cities into slums. Now you can steal up to $950 a day and use drugs openly and camp anywhere you want--a great foundation for any functioning society. Almost every large city in California has a few streets of blocks where they just push all the homeless and trash piles up, you see open bike chop shops pop up, there are super sketchy pimps/prostitutes. I just think we are allowing someone who has a drug addiction to descend to an even deeper downward spiral. I think Neo-liberals tell themselves that they have to not further harm these marginalized folks, but really it's just the the further soft bigotry of low expectations. My dad was a drug addict and the only time I saw him get sober was after he was incarcerated. I don't think the people out there sleeping under bridges and pushing carts full of trash are getting help, society is just letting them rot until they die off and neoliberals like Nancy Pelosi can just ignore them like a meaningless statistic. Republicans straight up don't care either, but I've never seen lower levels of human despair and drug addiction than in San Francisco or other deeply blue democrat run states.