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Very NSFW and serious trigger warning: https://youtu.be/yPQYxYt3zmI https://youtu.be/yPQYxYt3zmI Here is what I mean by violence against animals

NicoJuicy 5y ago
And you think that's the default? You know how many people/farmers actually care about animals? The exception doesn't make the rule. ( My dad was a veterinarian. So I have a lot of personal experience on the subject, under belgian law ofc)
- sweetheart 5y ago
  These are all industry standard practices throughout the world. This is how the majority of meat is produced. If you find it abhorrent, then you find most animal products abhorrent.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    That's not even remotely true. Eg. Europe doesn't want any meat imported from the US. Different standards... Perhaps educate yourself before claiming things.
    - sweetheart 5y ago
      Nope, they follow many or all of the extremely problematic standards that are commonplace in the US and Australia. Don’t worry, the EU has published the guidelines for what is considered humane slaughter, so you can verify it for yourself like I did. Also, what did you think of the film? Those are _exactly_ the methods that the EU has approved.
      - NicoJuicy 5y ago
        I think the law could use an update for chickens and turkeys for these cases, of that's the case. And that the video doesn't match my experience with when i tagged along with my dad when i was young, who was a veterinarian. As I said, they are going to show the worst examples. I haven't seen any of those anywhere here and I've seen a bunch of them and none were like that. Like i said: And you think that's the default? You know how many people/farmers actually care about animals?
        sweetheart 5y ago
        I agree, we should _definitely_ update the laws, which is exactly what many organizations are trying to do, like the Humane League. And I don't doubt that these are not your experiences, and that you've seen far more humane examples. There are many, I'm sure. But the cases of animals being treated as they are in Dominion are not uncommon at all. Like I said, they represent the standard industry practices. The question then simply becomes when is enough enough? How many animals need to be treated that way before we reject factory farming entirely? Or eating animals entirely? I _do_ know how many people care about the animals, and it's a lot! Me, you, and probably most folks we know. But it's because I care about them that I don't eat them, and I invite you to do that with me so we can make sure the stuff we see in Dominion isn't only uncommon, but unheard of.

NicoJuicy 5y ago

And you think that's the default? You know how many people/farmers actually care about animals? The exception doesn't make the rule. ( My dad was a veterinarian. So I have a lot of personal experience on the subject, under belgian law ofc)

sweetheart 5y ago
These are all industry standard practices throughout the world. This is how the majority of meat is produced. If you find it abhorrent, then you find most animal products abhorrent.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  That's not even remotely true. Eg. Europe doesn't want any meat imported from the US. Different standards... Perhaps educate yourself before claiming things.
  - sweetheart 5y ago
    Nope, they follow many or all of the extremely problematic standards that are commonplace in the US and Australia. Don’t worry, the EU has published the guidelines for what is considered humane slaughter, so you can verify it for yourself like I did. Also, what did you think of the film? Those are _exactly_ the methods that the EU has approved.
    - NicoJuicy 5y ago
      I think the law could use an update for chickens and turkeys for these cases, of that's the case. And that the video doesn't match my experience with when i tagged along with my dad when i was young, who was a veterinarian. As I said, they are going to show the worst examples. I haven't seen any of those anywhere here and I've seen a bunch of them and none were like that. Like i said: And you think that's the default? You know how many people/farmers actually care about animals?
      - sweetheart 5y ago
        I agree, we should _definitely_ update the laws, which is exactly what many organizations are trying to do, like the Humane League. And I don't doubt that these are not your experiences, and that you've seen far more humane examples. There are many, I'm sure. But the cases of animals being treated as they are in Dominion are not uncommon at all. Like I said, they represent the standard industry practices. The question then simply becomes when is enough enough? How many animals need to be treated that way before we reject factory farming entirely? Or eating animals entirely? I _do_ know how many people care about the animals, and it's a lot! Me, you, and probably most folks we know. But it's because I care about them that I don't eat them, and I invite you to do that with me so we can make sure the stuff we see in Dominion isn't only uncommon, but unheard of.