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I was robbed at gunpoint in Colombia. I argued with robber I want to keep my passport and will take my cards from wallet. In US they would shoot me just for goo

I was robbed at gunpoint in Colombia. I argued with robber I want to keep my passport and will take my cards from wallet. In US they would shoot me just for good measure.

tstrimple 5y ago
I want to make sure I understand your argument. You're suggesting you're more likely to be murdered by a mugger in the US than in Colombia?
- cigaser 5y ago
  Yes, Colombian guy was polite.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  Thats actually a well known phenomenon - in countries where kidnapping is widespread, the kidnapper is a 'businessman', they are not there to kill people and they evade justice and keep low-ish profile. By contrast in US crininals know they will likely spend many years in jail
  - tstrimple 5y ago
    It's factually incorrect and easy to verify by comparing murder rates. Colombia's murder rate is 8x higher than the US. Stating that you're more likely to be murdered in the US than Colombia is ridiculous. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Colombia/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Colombia/U...
subungual 5y ago
It's fascinating to me that everywhere that I've traveled and lived in South America (including Colombia), people seem to have this narrative about the locals that they'll "just shoot you and go through your pockets after." I've not seen any evidence that it's based in anything except media-cultivated fear of their own culture. I'm not used to hearing it said about the US, but with the constant pushes here to keep us afraid and willing to give up civil liberties, it makes sense that I'd run into it one day.
fungu 5y ago
This is so far from reality I'm fascinated as to where you've gotten this idea from. Is your concept of the US based on comic books or old spaghetti westerns or some media in your country? The odds of getting shot by someone wanting to take your wallet is just so close to zero that it literally never crosses my mind. I'm more likely to die getting struck by lightning or having a meteorite fall out of the sky and hit me.

I was robbed at gunpoint in Colombia. I argued with robber I want to keep my passport and will take my cards from wallet. In US they would shoot me just for good measure.

tstrimple 5y ago

I want to make sure I understand your argument. You're suggesting you're more likely to be murdered by a mugger in the US than in Colombia?

cigaser 5y ago
Yes, Colombian guy was polite.
ClumsyPilot 5y ago
Thats actually a well known phenomenon - in countries where kidnapping is widespread, the kidnapper is a 'businessman', they are not there to kill people and they evade justice and keep low-ish profile. By contrast in US crininals know they will likely spend many years in jail
- tstrimple 5y ago
  It's factually incorrect and easy to verify by comparing murder rates. Colombia's murder rate is 8x higher than the US. Stating that you're more likely to be murdered in the US than Colombia is ridiculous. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Colombia/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Colombia/U...

subungual 5y ago

It's fascinating to me that everywhere that I've traveled and lived in South America (including Colombia), people seem to have this narrative about the locals that they'll "just shoot you and go through your pockets after." I've not seen any evidence that it's based in anything except media-cultivated fear of their own culture. I'm not used to hearing it said about the US, but with the constant pushes here to keep us afraid and willing to give up civil liberties, it makes sense that I'd run into it one day.

fungu 5y ago

This is so far from reality I'm fascinated as to where you've gotten this idea from. Is your concept of the US based on comic books or old spaghetti westerns or some media in your country? The odds of getting shot by someone wanting to take your wallet is just so close to zero that it literally never crosses my mind. I'm more likely to die getting struck by lightning or having a meteorite fall out of the sky and hit me.