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Even if it would be possible for the farmed animal to really have a fulfilling life (which I don't think is possible in the current, industrialized world), ther

by tpm 5y ago

Even if it would be possible for the farmed animal to really have a fulfilling life (which I don't think is possible in the current, industrialized world), there are still humans who are caring for the animals, there are humans who are killing and dissecting them, and they too are affected by the inhumane process, and I think our empathy should extend to them too.

tsimionescu 5y ago
> which I don't think is possible in the current, industrialized world This is a concern I share. > there are still humans who are caring for the animals, there are humans who are killing and dissecting them, and they too are affected by the inhumane process, and I think our empathy should extend to them too. As far as I know, farmers don't suffer any kind of psychological damage from caring for and slaughtering animals, and haven't throughout human history. Again, factory farm workers are a different problem.
- uxcolumbo 5y ago
  Then you should watch the Dark Side of Dairy documentary. A farmer started to cry and asked for the camera to be turned off - when he was asked what happens to the mother and baby cow. Or look on Youtube farmers talking about 'There is a person in there' when talking about their farm animals. Or farmers who have given up on exploiting animals and switched to different kinds of farming.
- tpm 5y ago
  This is a good read. Not very emotional, but good description of one of the jobs. One interesting bit: "the vast majority of farmers don’t do it. They might be rearing the livestock for meat and understand that the animals’ ultimate destination is an abattoir, but that doesn’t mean they like killing.... It’s the same as with an old dog: they could do it themselves, but they can’t." https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/13/the-knacker-the-toughest-job-in-british-farming https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/13/the-knac...

by tpm 5y ago

tsimionescu 5y ago

> which I don't think is possible in the current, industrialized world This is a concern I share. > there are still humans who are caring for the animals, there are humans who are killing and dissecting them, and they too are affected by the inhumane process, and I think our empathy should extend to them too. As far as I know, farmers don't suffer any kind of psychological damage from caring for and slaughtering animals, and haven't throughout human history. Again, factory farm workers are a different problem.

uxcolumbo 5y ago
Then you should watch the Dark Side of Dairy documentary. A farmer started to cry and asked for the camera to be turned off - when he was asked what happens to the mother and baby cow. Or look on Youtube farmers talking about 'There is a person in there' when talking about their farm animals. Or farmers who have given up on exploiting animals and switched to different kinds of farming.
tpm 5y ago
This is a good read. Not very emotional, but good description of one of the jobs. One interesting bit: "the vast majority of farmers don’t do it. They might be rearing the livestock for meat and understand that the animals’ ultimate destination is an abattoir, but that doesn’t mean they like killing.... It’s the same as with an old dog: they could do it themselves, but they can’t." https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/13/the-knacker-the-toughest-job-in-british-farming https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/13/the-knac...