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>Pharma industry is malicious scum and has to be kept on short tight leash. That sounds a bit anti-vax.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
The industry has repeatedly put profits ahead of people's well-being, Oxycotin being the easiest example. Their actions should be met with severe skepticism.
- nceqs3 6y ago
  Revlimid, Humira, Trikafta, I can go on and on. There are many, many great drugs that save people's lives. Obviously Purdue committed crimes with how they marketed the drug but remember Oxycontin was FDA approved and it had a massive black box warning that said THIS DRUG IS ADDICTIVE.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    >Oxycontin was FDA approved and it had a massive black box warning that said THIS DRUG IS ADDICTIVE. They lied in their submission to get it FDA approved. And that massive black box only appeared 20 years after the introduction of the drug. As I said, they place profit over the wellbeing of people. That doesn't mean they don't save lives, but if it's more profitable to save fewer they'll generally prefer that route.
    - sizzle 6y ago
      You are talking about one company peddling one class of highly abusable drugs here, not the whole industry researching and developing life saving drugs that aren’t addictive and abusable to anywhere near the same degree on a neurochemical level. So yes this one company did a bad thing, why tarnish the reputation of cholesterol or plaque reducing, etc. med companies just trying to pay the scientists to create the discoveries and profit to fuel even more molecule research and discoveries?
      - boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >You are talking about one company peddling one class of highly abusable drugs here, Yes, I provided just one example. Here's another one, trying to ensure patent rights on the covid vaccine. Or the common practice of releasing a slightly different version of a medication when the patent expires. >just trying to pay the scientists to create the discoveries and profit to fuel even more molecule research and discoveries? Then why do they have a marketing department and a lobbying budget? They have repeatedly shown they require heavy regulation.
- sizzle 6y ago
  Industry or select few executives lining their pockets and government officials they are in bed with to look the other way?
pjc50 6y ago
As usual, the scientific side is (mostly) fine, it's the marketing side that's a disaster.

The industry has repeatedly put profits ahead of people's well-being, Oxycotin being the easiest example. Their actions should be met with severe skepticism.

nceqs3 6y ago
Revlimid, Humira, Trikafta, I can go on and on. There are many, many great drugs that save people's lives. Obviously Purdue committed crimes with how they marketed the drug but remember Oxycontin was FDA approved and it had a massive black box warning that said THIS DRUG IS ADDICTIVE.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  >Oxycontin was FDA approved and it had a massive black box warning that said THIS DRUG IS ADDICTIVE. They lied in their submission to get it FDA approved. And that massive black box only appeared 20 years after the introduction of the drug. As I said, they place profit over the wellbeing of people. That doesn't mean they don't save lives, but if it's more profitable to save fewer they'll generally prefer that route.
  - sizzle 6y ago
    You are talking about one company peddling one class of highly abusable drugs here, not the whole industry researching and developing life saving drugs that aren’t addictive and abusable to anywhere near the same degree on a neurochemical level. So yes this one company did a bad thing, why tarnish the reputation of cholesterol or plaque reducing, etc. med companies just trying to pay the scientists to create the discoveries and profit to fuel even more molecule research and discoveries?
    - boomboomsubban 6y ago
      >You are talking about one company peddling one class of highly abusable drugs here, Yes, I provided just one example. Here's another one, trying to ensure patent rights on the covid vaccine. Or the common practice of releasing a slightly different version of a medication when the patent expires. >just trying to pay the scientists to create the discoveries and profit to fuel even more molecule research and discoveries? Then why do they have a marketing department and a lobbying budget? They have repeatedly shown they require heavy regulation.
sizzle 6y ago
Industry or select few executives lining their pockets and government officials they are in bed with to look the other way?

pjc50 6y ago

As usual, the scientific side is (mostly) fine, it's the marketing side that's a disaster.