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No mention of your support for the invasion of Iraq then?
by dazc 6y ago
No mention of your support for the invasion of Iraq then?
- nindalf 6y agoIraq: the case for decisive action. Published 18th Jan 2003. (https://www.theguardian.com/news/2003/jan/19/leaders.politics https://www.theguardian.com/news/2003/jan/19/leaders.politic...).
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- Macha 6y agoToo recent, easier to bash dead people than people who may still work for them.
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- rjzzleep 6y agoWhat do you mean? Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia were mistakes? I thought the only mistakes were that the public found out what human rights abuses happened and that the facts were made up. /s These publications all have blood on their hands. "We made a mistake" that isn't even honest doesn't cut it. The only real unfortunate thing here is that people like Trump get to use these peoples lies to push even greater lies.
- koheripbal 6y agoSaddam gassing Kurds was made up?
- Kye 6y agoI think the first paragraph exceeded the bounds of an effective /s
- GlennS 6y agoStill possible the Iraq war could turn out to have been the right course of action. Probably not, but unclear at this point.
- boomboomsubban 6y agoIt's possible that invading Canada today would turn out to be the "right course of action" but that doesn't mean we should kill a million Canadians to find out. That said, even if you believe that removing Hussein was a worthy goal, the Iraq War was a colossal shit show.
- curation 5y agoAs a Canadian I am grateful!
- bavell 6y agoOur wars in the middle east over the last 3 decades are objectively catastrophic failures. The liberties we have ceded, the lives lost and displaced, the destabilization of an entire region, the resources spent on the military industrial complex.... I could go on but it's abundantly clear that the negatives far outweigh any marginal benefits that may have occurred.
- hermitcrab 5y agoYes. But we kept getting the oil. And that was the whole point, wasn't it?
- weswpg 6y agoat which point do you think it would be more clear what the consequences of the 2003 invasion of Iraq have been? Someone born on the day of that invasion would be an adult by now so it should be possible to come to at least a few conclusions about all that death and destruction.
- k1m 6y agoMedia Lens have done great work analysing the Guardian's output over the years, particularly their support for wars: https://www.medialens.org/?s=guardian https://www.medialens.org/?s=guardian I think anyone really interested in the Guardian's failings will learn more from Media Lens than any self-critical piece published by the paper itself. Their books Guardians of Power and Propaganda Blitz examine the Guardian's output too. (Disclosure: I'm currently the webmaster for the site.)
- thinkingemote 6y agoYou might possibly be interested in newssniffer which tracks changes to articles.
- k1m 5y agoThanks, it's a great site!
- drcongo 5y agoMedia Lens' reporting on The Guardian's Corbyn smear campaign was exceptional.
- fallingfrog 6y agoI suspect not enough time has passed for them to see the period in living memory clearly.
- drcongo 5y agoAnd no mention of their endless attacks on Jeremy Corbyn based wholly on lies fed to them by the Blue Labour crowd.