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Why so many hates from developers who never used or helped building Audacity ?

by mt42or 5y ago

tazjin 5y ago
Because a huge part of the tech community lives in a kind of "outrage mania" at this point and is just looking for the next shitstorm to post in. This Github thread has literal calls for violence, racism and other such things in it and people keep piling on more. Tomorrow we'll have a different thread.
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- junon 5y ago
  I've been watching this thing from the start. I've not seen a lot of that. People are outraged at being tracked. That's perfectly acceptable outrage.
  - tazjin 5y ago
    > I've been watching this thing from the start. I've not seen a lot of that. The worst comments are gone. I reported some to Github and they removed the responsible accounts. > People are outraged at being tracked People are outraged at opt-in functionality. Whether it should exist is worth discussing (and, of course, how it should be implemented) - but lets not pretend that there is some evil move to "steal" your data going on here.
    - junon 5y ago
      You should research the history of Muse Group. This is not their first time doing this.
      - tazjin 5y ago
        Doing what exactly? Adding opt-in (why do people ignore this part?) functionality for tracking how their software is used, to figure out how to prioritise? I just don't see how people read evil conspiracy stuff into that. Searching for what this company supposedly did wrong brings up a bunch of terrible articles which literally quote stuff like 4chan greentext with fictional (and implausible) scenarios for how this can be abused. Is this tracking going to be useful for their purposes? No idea. Should they self-host this instead? Maybe, if that's feasible.
swiley 5y ago
The author of this PR doesn't have a long history of contributions either.
squarefoot 5y ago
Because we don't need any experience with any software to say that telemetry, any kind of it, is wrong; it has already been abused and will be abused. Long gone are the days of a program that bombed, so one would send the core dump containing a great deal of personal information and sensitive data to the developers who would investigate the bug and mail back an uuencoded solution. Sounds old? Yeah because it is. This is now a connected world in which every hole can be exploited to make money or gain advantages over other people, software that phones home -no matter if in perfect good faith or not- can be exploited to do nasty things. Thumbs down.

Why so many hates from developers who never used or helped building Audacity ?

by mt42or 5y ago

Why so many hates from developers who never used or helped building Audacity ?

Because a huge part of the tech community lives in a kind of "outrage mania" at this point and is just looking for the next shitstorm to post in. This Github thread has literal calls for violence, racism and other such things in it and people keep piling on more. Tomorrow we'll have a different thread.

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junon 5y ago
I've been watching this thing from the start. I've not seen a lot of that. People are outraged at being tracked. That's perfectly acceptable outrage.
- tazjin 5y ago
  > I've been watching this thing from the start. I've not seen a lot of that. The worst comments are gone. I reported some to Github and they removed the responsible accounts. > People are outraged at being tracked People are outraged at opt-in functionality. Whether it should exist is worth discussing (and, of course, how it should be implemented) - but lets not pretend that there is some evil move to "steal" your data going on here.
  - junon 5y ago
    You should research the history of Muse Group. This is not their first time doing this.
    - tazjin 5y ago
      Doing what exactly? Adding opt-in (why do people ignore this part?) functionality for tracking how their software is used, to figure out how to prioritise? I just don't see how people read evil conspiracy stuff into that. Searching for what this company supposedly did wrong brings up a bunch of terrible articles which literally quote stuff like 4chan greentext with fictional (and implausible) scenarios for how this can be abused. Is this tracking going to be useful for their purposes? No idea. Should they self-host this instead? Maybe, if that's feasible.

swiley 5y ago

The author of this PR doesn't have a long history of contributions either.

squarefoot 5y ago

Because we don't need any experience with any software to say that telemetry, any kind of it, is wrong; it has already been abused and will be abused. Long gone are the days of a program that bombed, so one would send the core dump containing a great deal of personal information and sensitive data to the developers who would investigate the bug and mail back an uuencoded solution. Sounds old? Yeah because it is. This is now a connected world in which every hole can be exploited to make money or gain advantages over other people, software that phones home -no matter if in perfect good faith or not- can be exploited to do nasty things. Thumbs down.