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US tech appears rife in this right now. I follow lots of engineers on twitter and some folks seem to spend more time enrolled in their own victimhood or the vic

US tech appears rife in this right now. I follow lots of engineers on twitter and some folks seem to spend more time enrolled in their own victimhood or the victimhood of others who cause they love to rally to (because they get to point victims and their own invented perpetrators). I often want to point this out, but I would risk losing my job.

gherkinnn 5y ago
I remember seeing one of these very outspoken tech people at a conference. He tweeted a photo of a Mexican woman holding a presentation and saying what a great topic it was. Then he preceded to sit in a corner, ignore the talk, and work on his laptop. Or people who pull in >300k, go on about communism, but buy fast cars. Full of shit, the lot.
- Tade0 5y ago
  Back in the 70s my father hosted a few Americans in Poland and at a point the conversation shifted to the possibility of communism establishing itself in the US. It went somewhat like this: "Aren't you guys afraid that communism will eventually get a foothold in the US?" "Nah, if it ever does we'll just start selling hammer and sickle t-shirts." I guess that's what eventually happened.
- majani 5y ago
  To me, the rich people bigging up high tax policies and heavy regulations feels like they're intentionally pulling up the ladder from behind them.
- bradlys 5y ago
  I don’t think having a preference towards communism or socialism in some form over our current form of capitalism means that you cannot partake in being good at capitalism. It’s like saying to someone - jeez, if you hate your job so much then why are you so good at it? Stop complaining about the job sucking when you do so well! People can be good at things they don’t enjoy or find fulfilling. For instance, I’m very pro-ev and for taking significant action on climate change. Yet, I ride and drive sporty ICE vehicles. I travel around the world. You can still use or even enjoy one thing while still being a proponent for another that might seem to go against the thing you currently enjoy/use...
  - gherkinnn 5y ago
    Of course you can. It’s just that sooner or later you’ll look silly. Tweeting “fuck the system” from an iPhone? Fine. Everybody needs a phone, iPhones last a long time, and the SE models are cheap. Preaching about the perils of consumerism and demonising anybody along the way whilst working at Amazon and always buying the latest tech? Solid hypocrite.
    - bradlys 5y ago
      > Preaching about the perils of consumerism and demonising anybody along the way whilst working at Amazon and always buying the latest tech? Solid hypocrite. I just don't see this that often. Also - while you may denounce some cause - it doesn't mean you can't work at some place that might promote parts of that cause. After all - if you were a proponent of socialism or communism - how could you work at just about any company in the USA without being labeled as a "hypocrite"? Sometimes the realities of the world force you to participate in things that you don't want to participate in...
      - KwisatzHaderack 5y ago
        > I just don't see this that often I see you don’t go on Twitter much.

gherkinnn 5y ago

I remember seeing one of these very outspoken tech people at a conference. He tweeted a photo of a Mexican woman holding a presentation and saying what a great topic it was. Then he preceded to sit in a corner, ignore the talk, and work on his laptop. Or people who pull in >300k, go on about communism, but buy fast cars. Full of shit, the lot.

Tade0 5y ago
Back in the 70s my father hosted a few Americans in Poland and at a point the conversation shifted to the possibility of communism establishing itself in the US. It went somewhat like this: "Aren't you guys afraid that communism will eventually get a foothold in the US?" "Nah, if it ever does we'll just start selling hammer and sickle t-shirts." I guess that's what eventually happened.
majani 5y ago
To me, the rich people bigging up high tax policies and heavy regulations feels like they're intentionally pulling up the ladder from behind them.
bradlys 5y ago
I don’t think having a preference towards communism or socialism in some form over our current form of capitalism means that you cannot partake in being good at capitalism. It’s like saying to someone - jeez, if you hate your job so much then why are you so good at it? Stop complaining about the job sucking when you do so well! People can be good at things they don’t enjoy or find fulfilling. For instance, I’m very pro-ev and for taking significant action on climate change. Yet, I ride and drive sporty ICE vehicles. I travel around the world. You can still use or even enjoy one thing while still being a proponent for another that might seem to go against the thing you currently enjoy/use...
- gherkinnn 5y ago
  Of course you can. It’s just that sooner or later you’ll look silly. Tweeting “fuck the system” from an iPhone? Fine. Everybody needs a phone, iPhones last a long time, and the SE models are cheap. Preaching about the perils of consumerism and demonising anybody along the way whilst working at Amazon and always buying the latest tech? Solid hypocrite.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    > Preaching about the perils of consumerism and demonising anybody along the way whilst working at Amazon and always buying the latest tech? Solid hypocrite. I just don't see this that often. Also - while you may denounce some cause - it doesn't mean you can't work at some place that might promote parts of that cause. After all - if you were a proponent of socialism or communism - how could you work at just about any company in the USA without being labeled as a "hypocrite"? Sometimes the realities of the world force you to participate in things that you don't want to participate in...
    - KwisatzHaderack 5y ago
      > I just don't see this that often I see you don’t go on Twitter much.