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Can someone name companies that aren't like this? I've worked at 3 places and feel like I'm doomed.

by mastrsushi 5y ago

duxup 5y ago
What places did you work?
- mastrsushi 5y ago
  Orbcomm, ECS (Police work), and a nameless "startup" that made police software. I don't have an interest in the police or DoD btw. I just pick positions looking for a .NET role.
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AussieWog93 5y ago
I'm not going to name names, but companies like this that normalise bullying and overwork to the point of staff breaking are not the norm. Thinking about my own experience and the people I know, this would describe at most 25% of jobs (most of that being overwork).
- aroundtown 5y ago
  Unfortunately for some of us, it seems like every place we go is toxic. I've had nothing but terrible experiences every place I have worked as a programmer. I've been out of the game for a bit because of health issues, but I do not look forward to trying to find work again. To be honest, I feel like that person who has been in so many abusive relationships that they give up on dating all together.
  - AussieWog93 5y ago
    Man, that's so sad. I don't even know what to say, but hope you can find happiness somewhere.
xenihn 5y ago
Yes, huge tech companies have lots of orgs and teams, which means there won't be one singular culture. Some teams will be toxic, some won't, some will be in between. Certain huge companies will have more "good" teams than "bad" ones. Then you have places like Amazon, where bad teams are the norm, and good ones are exceptions.
treeman79 5y ago
People can be legitimately afraid of revenge by a company or specific people. Certainly met a few characters that enjoy going out of their way to hurt others.
tikhonj 5y ago
I've worked at a few different teams between some startups and Target, and I can tell you that the variance team-to-team is massive. I've been lucky to avoid anywhere that's been truly toxic, but even just at Target there's been a big gap between one team that was basically perfect and I enjoyed both work and life immensely and a different team that, while not awful, has definite problems and resulted in unnecessary stress. So not much concrete to say except that great teams do exist, might come up in surprising places (I never expected to find one at Target!) and that team-to-team variance swamps company-to-company variance. It's a complicated function of your immediate team and manager as well as upper management and broader company culture.

Can someone name companies that aren't like this? I've worked at 3 places and feel like I'm doomed.

duxup 5y ago

What places did you work?

mastrsushi 5y ago
Orbcomm, ECS (Police work), and a nameless "startup" that made police software. I don't have an interest in the police or DoD btw. I just pick positions looking for a .NET role.

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AussieWog93 5y ago

I'm not going to name names, but companies like this that normalise bullying and overwork to the point of staff breaking are not the norm. Thinking about my own experience and the people I know, this would describe at most 25% of jobs (most of that being overwork).

aroundtown 5y ago
Unfortunately for some of us, it seems like every place we go is toxic. I've had nothing but terrible experiences every place I have worked as a programmer. I've been out of the game for a bit because of health issues, but I do not look forward to trying to find work again. To be honest, I feel like that person who has been in so many abusive relationships that they give up on dating all together.
- AussieWog93 5y ago
  Man, that's so sad. I don't even know what to say, but hope you can find happiness somewhere.

xenihn 5y ago

Yes, huge tech companies have lots of orgs and teams, which means there won't be one singular culture. Some teams will be toxic, some won't, some will be in between. Certain huge companies will have more "good" teams than "bad" ones. Then you have places like Amazon, where bad teams are the norm, and good ones are exceptions.

treeman79 5y ago

People can be legitimately afraid of revenge by a company or specific people. Certainly met a few characters that enjoy going out of their way to hurt others.

tikhonj 5y ago

I've worked at a few different teams between some startups and Target, and I can tell you that the variance team-to-team is massive. I've been lucky to avoid anywhere that's been truly toxic, but even just at Target there's been a big gap between one team that was basically perfect and I enjoyed both work and life immensely and a different team that, while not awful, has definite problems and resulted in unnecessary stress. So not much concrete to say except that great teams do exist, might come up in surprising places (I never expected to find one at Target!) and that team-to-team variance swamps company-to-company variance. It's a complicated function of your immediate team and manager as well as upper management and broader company culture.