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This is a phenomenon that all too often suffers from the distaste of ruinous empathy [1] and moral superiority. I personally don't care why/how [you] _feel_ abo
by andrew_ 5y ago
This is a phenomenon that all too often suffers from the distaste of ruinous empathy [1] and moral superiority. I personally don't care why/how [you] _feel_ about this product. Stories about morality and feelings in the alt food market are insufferable and immediately invoke an epic eye roll. I care about what I eat in this order:
1. Is it healthy?
2. Does it taste good?
3. Is it sustainable?
Fake meat, at this point, barely meets #1, absolutely gets nowhere close to fulfilling #2 for my taste, and seems to fulfill #3. But it tastes like hot garbage compared to actual meat. I'll wait for lab-grown muscle to reach maturity. My taste buds and macros matter more in the meantime.
[1] https://www.radicalcandor.com/faq/what-is-ruinous-empathy/#:~:text=Ruinous%20Empathy™%20is%20“nice,is%20sugar-coated%20and%20unclear https://www.radicalcandor.com/faq/what-is-ruinous-empathy/#:....
- name_nick_sex_m 5y agoSo your priorities are to be 1. selfish asshole 2. selfish asshole 3. globally conscious and not listed (no importance): 4. against animal cruelty Good to know, thanks for sharing.
- rognjen 5y agoNever thought about it that way. I guess wanting to be healthy is selfish.
- andrew_ 5y agoThis kind of a reply belongs on Twitter, not HN. Since you're new here, I highly recommend reading the guidelines for replying. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I'll leave the most relevant parts to commenting here for you: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
- koheripbal 5y agoYep... people are missing the obvious point that since the taste is so much worse, Beyond Burgers are just NOT going to sell beyond the population of people that value the ethics over the taste.
- dafty4 5y agoAre you referring to the Beyond Burger at Burger King or Beyond Meat in the grocery? I ate the former today and think it tastes pretty good (I don't miss the real-meat Whopper at all.) P.S. I think your reference to radical candor is unnecessary; how does it further your 3 points? At the same time, thank you for pointing out this managerial meme; a tangential response since you brought it up: you do realize that the opposite of ruinous empathy is depraved indifference, right? How can we be sure that in critiquing Beyond Burger support as ruinously empathic, you aren't shielding your readers from valid concerns that choosing Real-Meat Whoppers over Beyond Meat Whoppers is immorally indifferent?
- top_kekeroni_m8 5y agoSo you still eat red meat, even though it is classified as a Group 2A carcinogen and is far from sustainable? You clearly only really care about your taste buds. Great priorities!