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> Because humanities degree holders are the true carriers of our cultures. Do you mean by putting themselves on a pedestal without having experienced life _at_

> Because humanities degree holders are the true carriers of our cultures. Do you mean by putting themselves on a pedestal without having experienced life _at_all_ and living in nothing but theories. Yeah, sure. > These people are the ones that work with the primary sources, sifitng them and passing on the highlights. These days, they are more the people re-writing history to fit a narrative, against any hard evidence.

AlexandrB 5y ago
> Do you mean by putting themselves on a pedestal without having experienced life _at_all_ and living in nothing but theories. Yeah, sure. I hope the irony that this describes a large portion of the tech industry is not lost on you.
- mnouquet 5y ago
  > I hope the irony that this describes a large portion of the tech industry is not lost on you. Of course, that's why I'm constantly getting downvoted, and got disowned. I witnessed my shitfaced +$150,000 salary co-worker in Santa Monica "educates" a hobo (with certainly his own fair share of mental health & drug issues) about how he claimed he had been rude to another co-worker. The same way some of my world travelling c-level execs family members tried to "educate" my gf about her carbon emission daily 30 miles commute. ALL these pricks have never known hunger, not having a roof over their head or not knowing what tomorrow will be made of. I cherish what I have now, and they will only pry it from my cold dead hands... and I won't go without a fight. All my guns are locked and loaded.
  - dang 5y ago
    Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? We're looking for thoughtful, curious conversation here, not denunciatory rhetoric. I'm sure there are many interesting things you could share about your experiences. Please do that, rather than fulminating, when posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - mnouquet 5y ago
      Thanks to prove my point, literally.
DubiousPusher 5y ago
Yeah, the lone lady that works at my local town's historical society: mapping death certificates to grave stones, reading old articles from our town paper and studying census records is a real revisionist. If anything, the kind of people I'm talking about are the least political information workers you'll find. And honestly, there's a chance that the decimation of paying positions in their fields is contributing to the problem of badly research clickbait books. When you have to making yourself into an internet phenomena to sell your self published book rather than take a salary job at a local institution, your incentives are all aligned to do something sensational. Edit: Just out of curiosity because I so often bump into complaints of this variety, what in your opinion is good history? Which historians or academic periods have produced "good history"? What techniques set those periods apart from today's historians?

AlexandrB 5y ago

> Do you mean by putting themselves on a pedestal without having experienced life _at_all_ and living in nothing but theories. Yeah, sure. I hope the irony that this describes a large portion of the tech industry is not lost on you.

mnouquet 5y ago
> I hope the irony that this describes a large portion of the tech industry is not lost on you. Of course, that's why I'm constantly getting downvoted, and got disowned. I witnessed my shitfaced +$150,000 salary co-worker in Santa Monica "educates" a hobo (with certainly his own fair share of mental health & drug issues) about how he claimed he had been rude to another co-worker. The same way some of my world travelling c-level execs family members tried to "educate" my gf about her carbon emission daily 30 miles commute. ALL these pricks have never known hunger, not having a roof over their head or not knowing what tomorrow will be made of. I cherish what I have now, and they will only pry it from my cold dead hands... and I won't go without a fight. All my guns are locked and loaded.
- dang 5y ago
  Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? We're looking for thoughtful, curious conversation here, not denunciatory rhetoric. I'm sure there are many interesting things you could share about your experiences. Please do that, rather than fulminating, when posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - mnouquet 5y ago
    Thanks to prove my point, literally.

DubiousPusher 5y ago

Yeah, the lone lady that works at my local town's historical society: mapping death certificates to grave stones, reading old articles from our town paper and studying census records is a real revisionist. If anything, the kind of people I'm talking about are the least political information workers you'll find. And honestly, there's a chance that the decimation of paying positions in their fields is contributing to the problem of badly research clickbait books. When you have to making yourself into an internet phenomena to sell your self published book rather than take a salary job at a local institution, your incentives are all aligned to do something sensational. Edit: Just out of curiosity because I so often bump into complaints of this variety, what in your opinion is good history? Which historians or academic periods have produced "good history"? What techniques set those periods apart from today's historians?