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>Literally the only substantial voice that stood up and went to bat for Daniel Shaver was BLM. I don't believe this is true. Can you like anything on BlackLive

>Literally the only substantial voice that stood up and went to bat for Daniel Shaver was BLM. I don't believe this is true. Can you like anything on BlackLivesMatter.com that touches on Daniel Shaver's death?

heterodoxxed 5y ago
https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e60-9e99feacacf2.html https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e6... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/09/black-lives-matter-supporters-call-attention-graphic-video-arizona-shooting https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/09/black-lives-mat... https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForDaniel/photos/i-just-wanted-to-say-thank-you-to-the-local-blm-movement-for-giving-my-family-a-/2620721184818204/ https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForDaniel/photos/i-just-want... | BlackLivesMatter.com The movement is so much more than that website. There's also a big difference between black lives matter and Black Lives Matter.
- tha0xa3 5y ago
  Opinion articles and FB posts, none of which back up GP's "literally the only substantial voice" claim... So you couldn't find anything, thanks for making my point for me. Again, where is any official BlackLivesMatter material on Daniel Shaver?
  - heterodoxxed 5y ago
    First off it's been over seven years, it's not hard to understand that black lives matter is a decentralized movement that is not centrally represented. The website is not the movement. Second, both of those "opinion pieces" have references to high profile black lives matter activists (deray, shaun king, etc) speaking out about Daniel Shaver, so that's about as official as you're going to get. Third, that "facebook post" documents an actual event organized by the family of Daniel Shaver, thanking the local blm chapter for their support. If you have a more substantial voice that has done more than blm in bringing attention to this issue in a productive way, feel free to bring that forward.
    - tha0xa3 5y ago
      >First off it's been over seven years Which was three years after BLM was created. >it's not hard to understand that black lives matter is a decentralized movement that is not centrally represented. There are official non-profit organizations that represent the decentralized groups, and you can't find anything from there, which proves my point. >Second, both of those "opinion pieces" have references to high profile black lives matter activists (deray, shaun king AHAHAHAHA I needed my lunchtime laugh. Talcum X, AHAHAHAHA! >Third, that "facebook post" documents an actual event organized by the family of Daniel Shaver, thanking the local blm chapter for their support. Can't see where it says any of that. Not that it matters, a FB post proves nothing of the GP's claim. This is Trump supporter-level reaching: "LOOK AT THIS FB PHOTO AS PROOF!" >If you have a more substantial voice that has done more than blm in bringing attention to this issue in a productive way, feel free to bring that forward. No, you make the claim, you supply evidence that supports that claim. Welcome to the Internet.
      - heterodoxxed 5y ago
        Nobody gives a shit about those non-profit organizations that "represent" the decentralized groups. You've had plenty of time to learn this. I provided evidence, now you provide a counter-claim that there was more substantial support from non-blm sources. Seems to me you have a bone to pick about the "official" blm non-profits and can't seem to approach this subject rationally.
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        tha0xa3 5y ago
        >Nobody gives a shit about those non-profit organizations that "represent" the decentralized groups. Everybody that's donated to BLM does, as do the community organizers that leverage these groups, and the media and news they generate, etc. >You've had plenty of time to learn this. IMAX-level projection on not getting it. It's apparent you don't understand the basic concepts. >I provided evidence No you didn't. You provided nothing. I'll ask again: find me some official collateral which back up GP's "literally the only substantial voice" claim. >Seems to me you have a bone to pick about the "official" blm non-profits and can't seem to approach this subject rationally. You have this backwards. The only logical and rational way to back up this claim is to post proof of it. "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

heterodoxxed 5y ago

https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e60-9e99feacacf2.html https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e6... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/09/black-lives-matter-supporters-call-attention-graphic-video-arizona-shooting https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/09/black-lives-mat... https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForDaniel/photos/i-just-wanted-to-say-thank-you-to-the-local-blm-movement-for-giving-my-family-a-/2620721184818204/ https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForDaniel/photos/i-just-want... | BlackLivesMatter.com The movement is so much more than that website. There's also a big difference between black lives matter and Black Lives Matter.

tha0xa3 5y ago
Opinion articles and FB posts, none of which back up GP's "literally the only substantial voice" claim... So you couldn't find anything, thanks for making my point for me. Again, where is any official BlackLivesMatter material on Daniel Shaver?
- heterodoxxed 5y ago
  First off it's been over seven years, it's not hard to understand that black lives matter is a decentralized movement that is not centrally represented. The website is not the movement. Second, both of those "opinion pieces" have references to high profile black lives matter activists (deray, shaun king, etc) speaking out about Daniel Shaver, so that's about as official as you're going to get. Third, that "facebook post" documents an actual event organized by the family of Daniel Shaver, thanking the local blm chapter for their support. If you have a more substantial voice that has done more than blm in bringing attention to this issue in a productive way, feel free to bring that forward.
  - tha0xa3 5y ago
    >First off it's been over seven years Which was three years after BLM was created. >it's not hard to understand that black lives matter is a decentralized movement that is not centrally represented. There are official non-profit organizations that represent the decentralized groups, and you can't find anything from there, which proves my point. >Second, both of those "opinion pieces" have references to high profile black lives matter activists (deray, shaun king AHAHAHAHA I needed my lunchtime laugh. Talcum X, AHAHAHAHA! >Third, that "facebook post" documents an actual event organized by the family of Daniel Shaver, thanking the local blm chapter for their support. Can't see where it says any of that. Not that it matters, a FB post proves nothing of the GP's claim. This is Trump supporter-level reaching: "LOOK AT THIS FB PHOTO AS PROOF!" >If you have a more substantial voice that has done more than blm in bringing attention to this issue in a productive way, feel free to bring that forward. No, you make the claim, you supply evidence that supports that claim. Welcome to the Internet.
    - heterodoxxed 5y ago
      Nobody gives a shit about those non-profit organizations that "represent" the decentralized groups. You've had plenty of time to learn this. I provided evidence, now you provide a counter-claim that there was more substantial support from non-blm sources. Seems to me you have a bone to pick about the "official" blm non-profits and can't seem to approach this subject rationally.
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      - tha0xa3 5y ago
        >Nobody gives a shit about those non-profit organizations that "represent" the decentralized groups. Everybody that's donated to BLM does, as do the community organizers that leverage these groups, and the media and news they generate, etc. >You've had plenty of time to learn this. IMAX-level projection on not getting it. It's apparent you don't understand the basic concepts. >I provided evidence No you didn't. You provided nothing. I'll ask again: find me some official collateral which back up GP's "literally the only substantial voice" claim. >Seems to me you have a bone to pick about the "official" blm non-profits and can't seem to approach this subject rationally. You have this backwards. The only logical and rational way to back up this claim is to post proof of it. "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."