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I notice immediately two main points are wrong: > Minimal friction. Fair enough when the site had one ad. Pretty much no site had one ad now. They have lots o
by smsm42 6y ago
I notice immediately two main points are wrong:
> Minimal friction.
Fair enough when the site had one ad. Pretty much no site had one ad now. They have lots of them, which is significantly slowing down loading the page. And if you add all tracking and surveillance code, it can inflate a simple site into megabytes of data. There are common sites that load literally hundreds of outside URLs for ad and surveillance mechanics.
Which brings us to point 2:
> Non-regressive. Paywalls, like other fixed costs, are regressive
Ad costs are regressive too - if you have weak computer and low bw connection, if your connection is unstable or expensive, if your only internet device is a mobile phone with less than excellent bandwidth - which is commonly the case in low income communities - then the last thing you want is to be hit with megabytes of ad data which have zero relationship to what you want to get. Of course, for people sitting on optical gigabit networks with latest-greatest hardware their employer paid for is not much of a problem...
If it was just a paid service, you could work out a deal - maybe it could be cheaper for your country, or have some kind of library or per-provider setup that could make it easier for you to get to it - but you don't have this option, it's megabytes of ad everywhere.
- version_five 6y ago> Ad costs are regressive too Not to mention how they disproportionately affect "non tech savvy" groups. I almost never see ads, especially not the really obnoxious ones, and I imagine it's the same for most people here. Meanwhile elderly people are being inundated with ads that look like forms and buttons and warnings, and getting tricked into doing who knows what. Even if that's not financially regressive, it still has an outsized impact that is worse for groups that are already having a harder time of it.
- smsm42 6y agoRight. I am adblocked up to my ears, but when I use a new device or somebody's else device, I am always startled how bad it is with the ads. I'm like "people, how do you live like this? It's literally impossible to do anything!". But people get used to that. Annoyed in the best case, defrauded very commonly.
- andrepd 6y agoAlso regarding regressivity: poorer and/or less informed people are more at-risk for predatory advertising: think scratch lotteries, payday loans, etc. Also of course the "YOU HAVE [241] VIRUSES DETECTED, DOWNLOAD SUPER CLEANER SX"