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NN is one of those things that I never really understood. I get that people want to "stick it" to their ISPs, but since the NN talk began my internet connection

NN is one of those things that I never really understood. I get that people want to "stick it" to their ISPs, but since the NN talk began my internet connection at home has gone from 8mb to 200mb without me having to pay another dime via Spectrum. They called me and just said, "Here, we're upgrading you. You need a new modem to get the speed so that's free too." I could get 400mb or 1gb if I wanted but 200mb has been more than enough. I assume there's just very different issues in other parts of the country, but where I live I haven't seen any need for NN so it makes me wonder if there will be some negative effect to my currently good experience?

yulker 6y ago
Net neutrality is not about the speed your ISP can provide you. It's about ensuring ISPs don't privilege some traffic over others.
- Wistar 6y ago
  A packet is a packet is a packet. Well, ideally.
  - neocraftster 6y ago
    Not ideally to some. People with money want their packets treated differently than other packets, and their ideal is just worse for everyone else.
alistairSH 6y ago
NN isn't about the raw speed. It's about ensuring content from ISP's competitors is available at the same speed as your ISP's content. If ISPs were just a dumb pipe, this wouldn't be a problem. But most of the major players are part of massive media conglomerates and have incentive to throttle/restrict certain content. https://i.insider.com/5887a523f10a9a2a768b6ac9?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/5887a523f10a9a2a768b6ac9?width=700&for...
- brightball 6y ago
  That's right. It's been a while since I've looked at it and I forgot about that aspect.
dralley 6y ago
The issue was ISPs deliberately throttling individual sites, and then demanding them to pay up, mobster style. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/186576-verizon-caught-throttling-netflix-traffic-even-after-its-pays-for-more-bandwidth https://www.extremetech.com/computing/186576-verizon-caught-... https://time.com/2871498/fcc-investigates-netflix-verizon-comcast/ https://time.com/2871498/fcc-investigates-netflix-verizon-co...
mixmastamyk 6y ago
Huh? Spectrum raises our broadband price every six months, even during the pandemic. It was ~$40 a few years ago and $75 today. I want to quit but only the decrepit ATT is an option, whose site can't even handle billing reliably.
betterunix2 6y ago
NN is not about broadband speeds, it is about ensuring that the Internet remains what it is -- a general purpose communication system over which new applications and services can be deployed without requiring permission or coordination with the network operators. It is basically just a regulatory statement of the end-to-end principle.
orthecreedence 6y ago
> my internet connection at home has gone from 8mb to 200mb without me having to pay another dime via Spectrum "See? Without NN, the speeds keep going up! This is great! NN sucks!" Congrats on being bamboozled.

yulker 6y ago

Net neutrality is not about the speed your ISP can provide you. It's about ensuring ISPs don't privilege some traffic over others.

Wistar 6y ago
A packet is a packet is a packet. Well, ideally.
- neocraftster 6y ago
  Not ideally to some. People with money want their packets treated differently than other packets, and their ideal is just worse for everyone else.

alistairSH 6y ago

NN isn't about the raw speed. It's about ensuring content from ISP's competitors is available at the same speed as your ISP's content. If ISPs were just a dumb pipe, this wouldn't be a problem. But most of the major players are part of massive media conglomerates and have incentive to throttle/restrict certain content. https://i.insider.com/5887a523f10a9a2a768b6ac9?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/5887a523f10a9a2a768b6ac9?width=700&for...

brightball 6y ago
That's right. It's been a while since I've looked at it and I forgot about that aspect.

dralley 6y ago

The issue was ISPs deliberately throttling individual sites, and then demanding them to pay up, mobster style. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/186576-verizon-caught-throttling-netflix-traffic-even-after-its-pays-for-more-bandwidth https://www.extremetech.com/computing/186576-verizon-caught-... https://time.com/2871498/fcc-investigates-netflix-verizon-comcast/ https://time.com/2871498/fcc-investigates-netflix-verizon-co...

mixmastamyk 6y ago

Huh? Spectrum raises our broadband price every six months, even during the pandemic. It was ~$40 a few years ago and $75 today. I want to quit but only the decrepit ATT is an option, whose site can't even handle billing reliably.

betterunix2 6y ago

NN is not about broadband speeds, it is about ensuring that the Internet remains what it is -- a general purpose communication system over which new applications and services can be deployed without requiring permission or coordination with the network operators. It is basically just a regulatory statement of the end-to-end principle.

orthecreedence 6y ago

> my internet connection at home has gone from 8mb to 200mb without me having to pay another dime via Spectrum "See? Without NN, the speeds keep going up! This is great! NN sucks!" Congrats on being bamboozled.