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That returning popularity is no accident: when it collapsed, its propaganda machine mutated and adapted to the west. Now it has a new master rising on the ashes

by nickpp 6y ago

That returning popularity is no accident: when it collapsed, its propaganda machine mutated and adapted to the west. Now it has a new master rising on the ashes of the old empire and it started its work.

tarsinge 6y ago
For sure, nothing to do with the rising inequalities, the economic perspective of the younger generations, and of course the whole climate and resources consumption issues the last decades have brought that maybe make some people question if we are on the right trajectory.
- seryoiupfurds 6y ago
  The Tsar was bad too. Cold comfort to the millions who were massacred after the revolution.
- nickpp 6y ago
  Oh, sure, good old Soviet Union was the master of equality. Everyone was equally hungry and equally oppressed. Everyone, of course, except them: the politically connected, the unelected ruling class. They and their good friends, the secret police. But the propaganda machine LOVED telling us how much better we had it in such an equalitarian society and what a nightmare was to live in the decadent West where the rich took advantage of the poor. We were literally waiting for capitalism to fall... while queueing in line for the allotted bread, flour and sugar rations. They were the masters of ecology as well. Just read up what happened to the Aral Sea and, you know, the subject at hand, Chernobyl.
  - tarsinge 6y ago
    Of course I was not defending Soviet Union but commenting on the returning popularity of "communism", and by that I was thinking of Marx ideas, notably regarding the economy[0]. I'm not sure there is really a returning popularity for Stalinism. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto
    - nickpp 6y ago
      Marxism, communism, Stalinism - they are one and the same cancer: the inhuman system under which people's rights are forcefully confiscated and replaced with the all powerful State that knows better what you need. For your own good and the betterment of all mankind. The people praising such a system it are either the purely evil overlords-to-be or their "useful idiots" losers blinded by desire of a of personal gain they are utterly unable to obtain in a meritocratic, free-market, capitalist system.

by nickpp 6y ago

tarsinge 6y ago

For sure, nothing to do with the rising inequalities, the economic perspective of the younger generations, and of course the whole climate and resources consumption issues the last decades have brought that maybe make some people question if we are on the right trajectory.

seryoiupfurds 6y ago
The Tsar was bad too. Cold comfort to the millions who were massacred after the revolution.
nickpp 6y ago
Oh, sure, good old Soviet Union was the master of equality. Everyone was equally hungry and equally oppressed. Everyone, of course, except them: the politically connected, the unelected ruling class. They and their good friends, the secret police. But the propaganda machine LOVED telling us how much better we had it in such an equalitarian society and what a nightmare was to live in the decadent West where the rich took advantage of the poor. We were literally waiting for capitalism to fall... while queueing in line for the allotted bread, flour and sugar rations. They were the masters of ecology as well. Just read up what happened to the Aral Sea and, you know, the subject at hand, Chernobyl.
- tarsinge 6y ago
  Of course I was not defending Soviet Union but commenting on the returning popularity of "communism", and by that I was thinking of Marx ideas, notably regarding the economy[0]. I'm not sure there is really a returning popularity for Stalinism. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto
  - nickpp 6y ago
    Marxism, communism, Stalinism - they are one and the same cancer: the inhuman system under which people's rights are forcefully confiscated and replaced with the all powerful State that knows better what you need. For your own good and the betterment of all mankind. The people praising such a system it are either the purely evil overlords-to-be or their "useful idiots" losers blinded by desire of a of personal gain they are utterly unable to obtain in a meritocratic, free-market, capitalist system.