> In either case, neither of these excuses are pertinent to the community's rejection of complex comprehensions or higher order functions. I can only assume yo

> In either case, neither of these excuses are pertinent to the community's rejection of complex comprehensions or higher order functions. I can only assume you haven’t done a lot of functional programming because Python is just not expressive as a functional language. Lambdas are extremely cumbersome. JavaScript by contrast has a huge FP culture and does not even have comprehensions. But it does have syntactically lightweight, multi-expression lambdas. > You could argue that monads are just as easy to understand as a sequence of statements in an imperative language, but experience suggests that people have a harder time understanding the more abstract concept rather than the more concrete concept. Except I’m not arguing that, because I don’t believe that monads are easier to understand, I believe that functional programming with pure functions is. This is just another restatement of the same argument you’ve been making the whole time. We onboard people who have never used FP into being productive Elixir programmers in two weeks or less. There are no monads in Elixir, nothing more advanced than recursion and function composition. My experience differs from yours. Our new programmers have very little trouble grokking how FP works. They have much more trouble understanding the Erlang concurrency model and the various primitives available, but those are unique to Erlang and uniquely powerful.