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I don’t disagree it amounts to answering a question, and it’s easy to say it’s not a burden. But on the ground it can be a tremendous burden, we are talking ab
by throwaway_kufu 5y ago
I don’t disagree it amounts to answering a question, and it’s easy to say it’s not a burden.
But on the ground it can be a tremendous burden, we are talking about people who may be avoiding calls because it’s creditors, we are talking about people who don’t have a phone (it’s impossible for most in power to even acknowledge there are people without a phone or even the continuity of continuous phone service - they point to a FCC pledge carriers signed not to do that, but the carriers have do it anyway).
There are many reasons this larger demographic of hidden workforce is not included in the BLS surveys to any meaningful degree, certainly the homeless are not, which I don’t believe in the homeless numbers either, or maybe more diplomatically I should say I believe they are political numbers.
Just as a example, early on we heard politicians discussing mortgages and rent, evictions protections, but once the lawmakers passed the stimulus have you heard any meaningful discussion about any of that? Pre pandemic there were 1M student loans defaulted per year, a long standing trend of adults living at home with parents in record numbers.
Before any of it can be addressed it needs to be acknowledged, it doesn’t help when both sides of the two party political system have consistently taken credit for record unemployment and record stock markets, or eviction protections or FCC pledges to waive late fees and not cut of service, it’s not all fake but it is fake to a meaningful degree. Again we saw something similar with the 2008 bank bailouts and the HAMP and HARP programs, I worked for a law firm briefly that tried to help people and we did to an extent, but for the most part maybe 80% it was banks saying you didn’t submit the paper work, we don’t have it, for months while simultaneously forging ahead in foreclosure cases often with fraudulent documents. To this day politicians champion those programs pointing to a return of the loans with interest, not once addressing the very real systemic problems, fraud and human costs.
- prepend 5y agoYou’re providing very basic critiques of all surveys, not just this. Feel free to critique the methods that BLS (and many other big surveys) and you may be able to improve them. I think they certainly aren’t perfect and this isn’t meant as an absolute measure, but an estimate. So it’s the best measure we have compared to everything else. Perhaps we should ignore it because it is worse than nothing. But if you read through the methods you’ll see that they plan for the issues you bring up as they are typical for phone surveys. Also, if we’re just pitching narrative, I expect job seekers to be more likely to be responding to phone and email since they are waiting on interviews to contact them back.