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People getting paid entry wage at McDonald's were never supposed to be able to afford a house on that. Also housing prices are astronomical, but your numbers a

People getting paid entry wage at McDonald's were never supposed to be able to afford a house on that. Also housing prices are astronomical, but your numbers are a touch high. I believe the median home price is $600k or so.

falcolas 5y ago
> were never supposed to be able to afford a house on that. Cost of living isn't just "buying a house". It's housing, transportation, clothing, food, etc. > your numbers are a touch high. Nope. I just got a flier that mentioned that the average home price for a townhouse in Belgrade (a "suburb" of Bozeman (which itself only has roughly a 50k population), for those not local) is $765k.
pessimizer 5y ago
> entry wage at McDonald's "Entry wage" is a misnomer for jobs like that. There's no advancement at a job like that except to management, and there will always be an order of magnitude fewer managers than workers (and far less turnover.)
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Not everyone who works at McDonald's is supposed to stay there forever and advance there. In general, you should either be getting a college degree or taking up a skilled trade, and only working at McDonald's until you do.
  - falcolas 5y ago
    A college degree is not a guarantee that you'll get a high paying job. Some degrees will only offer a $10k improvement over a full time McD's job. The average will push you into $70k a year, which puts you about $20k over the poverty line at least†. And skilled trades... they've been devalued as well. The average salary for a welder is in the $17/$18 range across America††. Not really better than McD's (in this thread of conversation at least). † https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/average-salary-for-college-graduates https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/average-sala... †† https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/welding-jobs-salary-and-highest-paying-positions https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/welding-jobs...

falcolas 5y ago

> were never supposed to be able to afford a house on that. Cost of living isn't just "buying a house". It's housing, transportation, clothing, food, etc. > your numbers are a touch high. Nope. I just got a flier that mentioned that the average home price for a townhouse in Belgrade (a "suburb" of Bozeman (which itself only has roughly a 50k population), for those not local) is $765k.

pessimizer 5y ago

> entry wage at McDonald's "Entry wage" is a misnomer for jobs like that. There's no advancement at a job like that except to management, and there will always be an order of magnitude fewer managers than workers (and far less turnover.)

josephcsible 5y ago
Not everyone who works at McDonald's is supposed to stay there forever and advance there. In general, you should either be getting a college degree or taking up a skilled trade, and only working at McDonald's until you do.
- falcolas 5y ago
  A college degree is not a guarantee that you'll get a high paying job. Some degrees will only offer a $10k improvement over a full time McD's job. The average will push you into $70k a year, which puts you about $20k over the poverty line at least†. And skilled trades... they've been devalued as well. The average salary for a welder is in the $17/$18 range across America††. Not really better than McD's (in this thread of conversation at least). † https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/average-salary-for-college-graduates https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/average-sala... †† https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/welding-jobs-salary-and-highest-paying-positions https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/welding-jobs...