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>Intelligence is an instrinic property of really-existing physical systems Why are human brains real, which are just meat full of electricity, but computer bra

>Intelligence is an instrinic property of really-existing physical systems Why are human brains real, which are just meat full of electricity, but computer brains cannot be real, which are just metal full of electricity? >Only organic material has demonstrated the relevant short-time and long-time properties for intelligence. I would argue: so far. We didn't start with Ultra-high-definition televisions. Grandpa had a tv that was barely discernible as a picture, and probably caused massive cancer. Now I have a high def screen in my pocket. >What the ad companies have been selling, and researchers peacocking, isn't "AI". I do agree with this, but I certainly do not know enough about it to speak intelligently. I guess what I'm saying is, your argument comes across as - we can't do it right now, so it must be impossible. That just smacks of being wrong.

mjburgess 6y ago
> we can't do it right now, so it must be impossible Has nothing to do with anything I said. I said no systems have properties in virtue of being computers. Nothing is a program, let alone intelligence. >meat full of electricity Meat grows. Intelligence is just a strategy many animals have adopted as a means of rapid adaptation to their local environment. It is maximal in humans because our motor systems are maximally adaptive, to the extreme degree that we literally learn to walk. Each cell of the body is an entire universe of factories. And the body a synthesis of trillions providing a "terminator-2"-like plasticity from-top-to-bottom. Each of these trillion cells is capable of unimaginable scales of adaption, let alone the whole body. I have no idea why people suppose any of that is a purely formal "algorithm" which any old thing might do. Beads of wood, or electrical switches. I can only assume, like the people to watch films for the first time, we apes are easily fooled.

mjburgess 6y ago

> we can't do it right now, so it must be impossible Has nothing to do with anything I said. I said no systems have properties in virtue of being computers. Nothing is a program, let alone intelligence. >meat full of electricity Meat grows. Intelligence is just a strategy many animals have adopted as a means of rapid adaptation to their local environment. It is maximal in humans because our motor systems are maximally adaptive, to the extreme degree that we literally learn to walk. Each cell of the body is an entire universe of factories. And the body a synthesis of trillions providing a "terminator-2"-like plasticity from-top-to-bottom. Each of these trillion cells is capable of unimaginable scales of adaption, let alone the whole body. I have no idea why people suppose any of that is a purely formal "algorithm" which any old thing might do. Beads of wood, or electrical switches. I can only assume, like the people to watch films for the first time, we apes are easily fooled.