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Saying homosexuality shouldn’t be legal isn’t an opinion, it’s bigotry. Viewpoints that infringe on a persons rights are not opinions, it’s discrimination. I a

Saying homosexuality shouldn’t be legal isn’t an opinion, it’s bigotry. Viewpoints that infringe on a persons rights are not opinions, it’s discrimination. I agree people should be able to speak freely but I also believe in standards. To take another example, if somebody has the “opinion” that women shouldn’t be able to refuse their husbands sexual advances, is this discussion that is acceptable or is it bigotry? Should people be able to openly discuss their “opinion” that adults should be able to have sex with minors? What if their opinion is that they should be allowed to kill homosexuals? There is a line. Idealism only goes so far.

madeofpalk 5y ago
Again, lets go back further. Should we have racial segregation? Is that an opinion that we should entertain discussion around? At the end of the day there are some viewpoints that "we" - general society - just deem to be wrong.
- gunshai 5y ago
  Understanding the futility of policing bad ideas or "wrong" ideas is capableweb's point. Whether or not society deems the idea as wrong or immoral reprehensible ect. the utterance of the words being judged as tantamount to the immoral act itself has shown to not be very helpful. This shift has ever expanded the militarized zone of topics one can't even discuss and all for what purpose? It seems like the enclaves of bad and dangerous ideas now insulated from the very influence of better information. It this not just the worst of both worlds?
Majestic121 5y ago
You'd be surprised how much of an opinion 'Homosexuality should be legal' is. It's so much an opinion that a good chunk of the world makes it illegal one way or another : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_terr... Russia even created new 'anti gay propaganda' laws recently, after allowing gay relations in 1993, so it's not even a 'it takes time to reach this stage' cultural milestone. But even though I think we can both agree that LGBT rights are a good thing, you have to remember that all the advances that we saw on this front is precisely because LGBT people crossed 'the line' of acceptability of their time. And they had to fight people that had the exact same kind of reaction against free speech. "Saying homosexuality should be legal isn’t an opinion, it’s heresy."

madeofpalk 5y ago

Again, lets go back further. Should we have racial segregation? Is that an opinion that we should entertain discussion around? At the end of the day there are some viewpoints that "we" - general society - just deem to be wrong.

gunshai 5y ago
Understanding the futility of policing bad ideas or "wrong" ideas is capableweb's point. Whether or not society deems the idea as wrong or immoral reprehensible ect. the utterance of the words being judged as tantamount to the immoral act itself has shown to not be very helpful. This shift has ever expanded the militarized zone of topics one can't even discuss and all for what purpose? It seems like the enclaves of bad and dangerous ideas now insulated from the very influence of better information. It this not just the worst of both worlds?

Majestic121 5y ago

You'd be surprised how much of an opinion 'Homosexuality should be legal' is. It's so much an opinion that a good chunk of the world makes it illegal one way or another : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_terr... Russia even created new 'anti gay propaganda' laws recently, after allowing gay relations in 1993, so it's not even a 'it takes time to reach this stage' cultural milestone. But even though I think we can both agree that LGBT rights are a good thing, you have to remember that all the advances that we saw on this front is precisely because LGBT people crossed 'the line' of acceptability of their time. And they had to fight people that had the exact same kind of reaction against free speech. "Saying homosexuality should be legal isn’t an opinion, it’s heresy."