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There's only a "worker shortage" because wages are low. There wouldn't be a "shortage" if these businesses actually paid decent wages. https://twitter.com/adam

There's only a "worker shortage" because wages are low. There wouldn't be a "shortage" if these businesses actually paid decent wages. https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1390011074179645444 https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/139001107417964544... >Most of these restaurant and retail owners can clearly pay more if they want but they are worried about the precedent and they know if they ban together and whine to a compliant media enough and fake like people won’t get cheeseburgers politicians will pull UI and social programs https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1390019438817185798 https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/139001943881718579... >Here we detail the long history of industry trade groups in nursing, education, trucking, construction & dozens of industries shaping media narratives of “worker shortages”. covid just supercharged this decades old PR gambit with an added kicker of pressuring govt to suspend UI

COGlory 5y ago
The Wendy's in Bozeman starts at $17. The McDonald's there starts at $15.50. I know of people working at a clothing store (Athleta) making $22. I think you're extremely off the mark with this comment.
- minikites 5y ago
  Are you asserting that the monetary value of unemployment benefits exceeds the full time salary of those jobs? It's easily possible that the the majority of local employers pay much less than that and are threatened by UI. Does every local business pay that well or just the corporate chains (which have additional wage pressures and other nationwide factors)?
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    You can't meaningfully compare just the monetary amounts, since the jobs require you to get up and go to work every day, and the unemployment benefits don't.
    - minikites 5y ago
      Why can't you compare them? Money is money and I can't pay for groceries or rent with or without "get up and go to work every day", it's completely irrelevant.
      - josephcsible 5y ago
        If your free money covers groceries and rent, then you compare "get up and go to work every day" with the luxuries you can use the extra money on.
        minikites 5y ago
        That's a colossal "if", the idea of "welfare queens" living the high life on government benefits is never actually true outside of fraud cases. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/montana-governor-ends-extra-unemployment-payments-citing-worker-shortage-n1266346 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/montana-governor-ends-e... >In towns like Bozeman, where costs of housing have skyrocketed during the pandemic, workers “are not getting jobs because these jobs don't pay enough to pay their bills,” McWilliams said.
        COGlory 5y ago
        This simply isn't true though. Because the jobs pay more than the welfare in most cases, and don't require any skill. Some businesses in town have closed as a result. I know multiple people who would rather scrape by on welfare and enjoy their summer.
- falcolas 5y ago
  I pointed this out in another comment, but posting wages without noting the exceptionally high costs for housing in Bozeman is misleading. Single family houses on the outskirts of town are selling for upwards of $800k. Condos anywhere from $400k to $1M. Apartments are going for $1,500 a month. Your Athieta (a somewhat high end clothing store, also worth noting) employee is barely making double what's needed to just afford an apartment.

COGlory 5y ago

The Wendy's in Bozeman starts at $17. The McDonald's there starts at $15.50. I know of people working at a clothing store (Athleta) making $22. I think you're extremely off the mark with this comment.

minikites 5y ago
Are you asserting that the monetary value of unemployment benefits exceeds the full time salary of those jobs? It's easily possible that the the majority of local employers pay much less than that and are threatened by UI. Does every local business pay that well or just the corporate chains (which have additional wage pressures and other nationwide factors)?
- josephcsible 5y ago
  You can't meaningfully compare just the monetary amounts, since the jobs require you to get up and go to work every day, and the unemployment benefits don't.
  - minikites 5y ago
    Why can't you compare them? Money is money and I can't pay for groceries or rent with or without "get up and go to work every day", it's completely irrelevant.
    - josephcsible 5y ago
      If your free money covers groceries and rent, then you compare "get up and go to work every day" with the luxuries you can use the extra money on.
      - minikites 5y ago
        That's a colossal "if", the idea of "welfare queens" living the high life on government benefits is never actually true outside of fraud cases. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/montana-governor-ends-extra-unemployment-payments-citing-worker-shortage-n1266346 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/montana-governor-ends-e... >In towns like Bozeman, where costs of housing have skyrocketed during the pandemic, workers “are not getting jobs because these jobs don't pay enough to pay their bills,” McWilliams said.
        COGlory 5y ago
        This simply isn't true though. Because the jobs pay more than the welfare in most cases, and don't require any skill. Some businesses in town have closed as a result. I know multiple people who would rather scrape by on welfare and enjoy their summer.
falcolas 5y ago
I pointed this out in another comment, but posting wages without noting the exceptionally high costs for housing in Bozeman is misleading. Single family houses on the outskirts of town are selling for upwards of $800k. Condos anywhere from $400k to $1M. Apartments are going for $1,500 a month. Your Athieta (a somewhat high end clothing store, also worth noting) employee is barely making double what's needed to just afford an apartment.