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That should also mean that the price per chip will decrease, because you can fit more on a single wafer
by jbverschoor 6y ago
That should also mean that the price per chip will decrease, because you can fit more on a single wafer
- Guthur 6y agoNot necessarily, and most likely no. The cost of craming so much in to such a small is not linear it's been getting more and more expensive. There are also factors like yield that come into play and potentially drive the costs up again.
- whoknowswhat11 6y agoAbsolutely not - these will be by far the most expensive process nodes. 28nm probably where you want to be for cost - check out what raspberry pi and other lower cost products use
- akmittal 6y agoI don't think it would be that much cheaper to make 28nm now. 2-3 generations behind mainstream should be cheapest. PI 4 was launched around 2 years back. So if PI5 is launched today they will mist probably go for 12nm.
- whoknowswhat11 6y agoDepends on volume. Tape out / design / validation / mask costs and other nonrecurring costs get high or very low based on node size. For Apple volume latest and later nodes may be cheapest per unit performance. Most folks aren't Apple
- 0-_-0 6y agoAccording to this, 28 nm is indeed the cheapest: http://www.monolithic3d.com/blog/moores-law-did-indeed-stop-at-28nm http://www.monolithic3d.com/blog/moores-law-did-indeed-stop-...
- akmittal 6y agoYou linked to article written in 2016.
- reportingsjr 6y agoEvery new processing node has been the most expensive processing node ever! Transistor costs have continued their trend of decreasing for every node. It's possible and likely that there will be a blip for the next two or so years due to the recent supply chain struggles, but I'm willing to bet they will continue decreasing for a while after this shakes out. http://www.imf.org/~/media/Files/Conferences/2017-stats-forum/session-6-kenneth-flamm.ashx http://www.imf.org/~/media/Files/Conferences/2017-stats-foru...
- jbverschoor 6y agoI dunno. Besides the capex, a wafer is about 25k. That doesn’t really change, right?
- FinanceAnon 6y agoTSMC is currently keeping prices constant or even increasing them. https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/03/31/tsmc-price-increase-rumors/ https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/03/31/tsmc-price-increase-ru...
- st_goliath 6y agoNot necessarily, because this inversely also allows packing additional complexity onto the same die size. Just look back over CPU development and costs over the last couple decades. The latest gen stuff got ever more complex and ever more capable but cost roughly the same at the time it hit the market.
- reportingsjr 6y agoHistorically this has been true, and costs reducing is a part of Gordon Moore's original statement. It has been true for Intel up until at least 2015, and I expect that ignoring the recent supply chain weirdness it will remain true for a while longer. http://www.imf.org/~/media/Files/Conferences/2017-stats-forum/session-6-kenneth-flamm.ashx http://www.imf.org/~/media/Files/Conferences/2017-stats-foru...