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> how do you find the time to build that idea out Based on this, I'm assuming you want to build an idea that makes money first. You need to solve a problem th

> how do you find the time to build that idea out Based on this, I'm assuming you want to build an idea that makes money first. You need to solve a problem that's worth paying for. Easily said, of course. The Mom Test[0] is a book about how to ask questions that are worth pursuing as a business. > do some of the good ideas get left out? That's the question really to focus on. Don't worry about developers or building yet - the first question to ask is - is there really a problem here? The first step really is about a basic litmus test. What's the cheapest way to "test" the idea without a costly build? End user research, landing page with some targeted traffic, All about getting to a few potential customers who will give you feedback. After that, then I say start building. If you build in a vacuum (you and some developers), you're likely to get it very wrong. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Mom-Test-customers-business-everyone-ebook/dp/B01H4G2J1U https://www.amazon.com/Mom-Test-customers-business-everyone-...

tr1ll10nb1ll 6y ago
You made a valid point about building in vacuum, that's exactly what I was doing with one of my projects last year and was wondering why I couldn't get any users who were sticking around. Sometimes, it can be the painfully bad UI but when that's not an issue either, you know, it's probably the problem you picked to work on itself. So I'm assuming, before working on anything that you think might make some money or be useful to others, there always has to be some form of idea validation. Nevertheless, what about the developers who don't have extensive developer networks nor the budget ( think : high school student or a 30 year old who can't convince colleagues to just quit their jobs and start working full-time with them ) but great ideas, which let's assume pass the Mom test. What do they do to get the word out for developers to start working with them, after all?
- irjustin 6y ago
  Glad you realized and moved on. It's easy to continue and stay stuck in the vacuum with the tunnel vision and all. Just one more feature. > What do they do to get the word out for developers to start working with them, after all? A very different problem, but this co-founder dating. It's hard because for people who don't have extensive networks, you're basically asking people to... build a network. But if you can take an idea far enough with an MVP, get some sales, customers, it's significantly easier to convince a potential co founder. Chicken egg problem made only worse, I know - but sadly, no easy answers here.
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tr1ll10nb1ll 6y ago

You made a valid point about building in vacuum, that's exactly what I was doing with one of my projects last year and was wondering why I couldn't get any users who were sticking around. Sometimes, it can be the painfully bad UI but when that's not an issue either, you know, it's probably the problem you picked to work on itself. So I'm assuming, before working on anything that you think might make some money or be useful to others, there always has to be some form of idea validation. Nevertheless, what about the developers who don't have extensive developer networks nor the budget ( think : high school student or a 30 year old who can't convince colleagues to just quit their jobs and start working full-time with them ) but great ideas, which let's assume pass the Mom test. What do they do to get the word out for developers to start working with them, after all?

irjustin 6y ago
Glad you realized and moved on. It's easy to continue and stay stuck in the vacuum with the tunnel vision and all. Just one more feature. > What do they do to get the word out for developers to start working with them, after all? A very different problem, but this co-founder dating. It's hard because for people who don't have extensive networks, you're basically asking people to... build a network. But if you can take an idea far enough with an MVP, get some sales, customers, it's significantly easier to convince a potential co founder. Chicken egg problem made only worse, I know - but sadly, no easy answers here.
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