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outrageous. how could things devolve to this from just a few years ago. UK is on a terrible course.

toyg 5y ago
Turns out that systematic brinkmanship against your neighbours will generate ill-will. Who would have thought…? Sadly, this is what “the people” want. A steady diet of tabloid nationalism for decades is finally bearing fruit. Things will get uglier before they get better.
- blibble 5y ago
  this is no different to the usual French pettiness over fish/beef/scallops/whatever
  - diveanon 5y ago
    How is protecting your borders petty? The UK decided to leave the EU, this seems like an entirely expected consequence.
    - lmz 5y ago
      In that case aren't the Jersey authorities also protecting their borders?
    - dankboys 5y ago
      The British asked 17(!) ships for evidence they fished in British waters over the last five years, and the french have responded by threatening to deprive the islands of electricity while french vessels are blockading. If that’s not petty, I don’t know what is.
  - toyg 5y ago
    It's pettiness on both sides. The sort of thing we used to solve around a table in Bruxelles, now we have to send in naval ships. Naval ships, btw, that are often joint-built with them so we can actually afford them, with all that it entails...
billyruffian 5y ago
What's outrageous? A french minister threatening to cut power to the island, french trawlermen blocking the landing of fish caught by british fishermen and to blockade the island of Jersey or two fisheries protection boats being dispatched to make sure the island's ports remain open? The cause? Asking seventeen (17!) french fishing vessels for evidence they've fished those fisheries in the last 5 years. I don't think I'm finding outrage in the same thing as you are.
- olivierduval 5y ago
  UK signed a deal for the Brexit. Now UK doesn't want to honor its part of the deal, aka give european (and french) fishermen the authorization required by the deal... Moreover, Jersey limited the parts of the fishing zone to be less than what the Brexit deal was negociated... So... how do you deal with a country that signed a treaty 5 month ago and doesn't want to respect it ???? Jersey is just "another brick in the wall"
  - billyruffian 5y ago
    You use the dispute mechanism built into the treaty. You don't blockade an island economy.
    - Hithredin 5y ago
      Blockin the electricy is exactly that

toyg 5y ago

Turns out that systematic brinkmanship against your neighbours will generate ill-will. Who would have thought…? Sadly, this is what “the people” want. A steady diet of tabloid nationalism for decades is finally bearing fruit. Things will get uglier before they get better.

blibble 5y ago
this is no different to the usual French pettiness over fish/beef/scallops/whatever
- diveanon 5y ago
  How is protecting your borders petty? The UK decided to leave the EU, this seems like an entirely expected consequence.
  - lmz 5y ago
    In that case aren't the Jersey authorities also protecting their borders?
  - dankboys 5y ago
    The British asked 17(!) ships for evidence they fished in British waters over the last five years, and the french have responded by threatening to deprive the islands of electricity while french vessels are blockading. If that’s not petty, I don’t know what is.
- toyg 5y ago
  It's pettiness on both sides. The sort of thing we used to solve around a table in Bruxelles, now we have to send in naval ships. Naval ships, btw, that are often joint-built with them so we can actually afford them, with all that it entails...

billyruffian 5y ago

What's outrageous? A french minister threatening to cut power to the island, french trawlermen blocking the landing of fish caught by british fishermen and to blockade the island of Jersey or two fisheries protection boats being dispatched to make sure the island's ports remain open? The cause? Asking seventeen (17!) french fishing vessels for evidence they've fished those fisheries in the last 5 years. I don't think I'm finding outrage in the same thing as you are.

olivierduval 5y ago
UK signed a deal for the Brexit. Now UK doesn't want to honor its part of the deal, aka give european (and french) fishermen the authorization required by the deal... Moreover, Jersey limited the parts of the fishing zone to be less than what the Brexit deal was negociated... So... how do you deal with a country that signed a treaty 5 month ago and doesn't want to respect it ???? Jersey is just "another brick in the wall"
- billyruffian 5y ago
  You use the dispute mechanism built into the treaty. You don't blockade an island economy.
  - Hithredin 5y ago
    Blockin the electricy is exactly that