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Four LiveLeak videos will always stay in my head. WARNING: even in text this stuff is horrifying. Stop reading if you don’t want to have nightmares. 1) an ISI

Four LiveLeak videos will always stay in my head. WARNING: even in text this stuff is horrifying. Stop reading if you don’t want to have nightmares. 1) an ISIS video where a 7 year old kid or so goes through a building where a bunch of hostages are tied up. He shoots them dead in succession. He looks like he’s about to cry throughout the whole video — but he doesn’t. 2) a completely covered up woman(?) in Iran is executed in public. They tie the rope around her neck and then lift her up . Her legs flail and kick a little, then a lot, then stop. The crowd is shouting. 3) a teenage girl in Guatemala is beaten by a crowd. When she’s lying on the floor someone pours a liquid over her and lights her on fire. She struggles a bit and it seems like the fire has gone out. The guy comes and pours more on her and sets her on fire again. She struggles a bit more slowly and it seems like the fire is out. Then she yells the most chilling thing I have ever heard. She screams “Echenme mas gasolina, culeros!” (Throw more gasoline on me, assholes!) I will never unhear a 16 year old girl begging for a mercy killing. The crowd obliged and pours a very large amount of the accelerant on her and she flails around while burning to death. 4) a woman is walking with her two kids near a maybe 6 foot high single brick thick wall in construction. One of her kids touches the wall and it collapses on his or her head. The mother digs out the bricks to get to her child but when she sees him she has a meltdown and is grabbing her hair and screaming. Absolutely horrifying, yes. But I don’t think there’s any other way to learn about this facet of the world. I think the world has lost a valuable resource.

ergot_vacation 6y ago
Appreciate you and others detailing some of this stuff in this thread. I mostly have to stay aware from content like this; don't really have the psychology for it. But I'm glad it's documented.
causality0 6y ago
LiveLeak definitely had the ability to change you. There was a video from a dashcam where a couple is driving down a road, and a brick or rock falls off a truck driving the opposite way. It bounces on the road before slamming through the windshield and instantly killing the wife sitting in the passenger seat. Whenever I feel like a member of my family has gotten on my last nerve, pushed me to my limit, I think of the sounds that man made as he looked at his wife and my anger just melts away. LiveLeak may have scarred me but it taught me not to ever take the people I love for granted.
- deleted 6y ago
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- ilugaslifk 6y ago
  That exact video changed my life in exactly the same way. Thank you for putting it so well. RIP LiveLeak. Its loss is a tragedy that is hard to quantify. Perhaps a catastrophe, that nobody will ever understand the full invisible scale of.
- enw 6y ago
  The video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iazTQVi1CEE https://youtube.com/watch?v=iazTQVi1CEE Skip to 1:45. Warning, it’s disturbing. Perhaps in a good way.
  - andromeduck 6y ago
    Holy shit I've never seen the full video before. It's so much more chilling then the 20s clip.
- Clubber 6y ago
  Be careful with that stuff. There are only so many scars you can accumulate before it really affects you. Life will give you scars all by itself eventually, no need to seek them out.
  - weswpg 6y ago
    This generation has experienced an unprecedented amount of isolation from danger and I think we are far closer to a state where we need to be more exposed to the lessons those dangers teach than we are to being over-exposed
  - hoseja 6y ago
    Or, you can embrace the abyss and find out what's on the other side.
    - gameshot911 6y ago
buryat 6y ago
read your depicts and > I think the world has lost a valuable resource. nothing of the value has been lost. You don't need to see this to understand that horrible things happen in the world.
- tux1968 6y ago
  With respect, a lot of people disagree with you... even a lot of people posting personal testimonials on this page. Seeing something can have a much more profound impact than simply being told about it.
- wyattpeak 6y ago
  I think the very fact that reading those descriptions is confronting, if it is to you as it is to me, is evidence that you do need exposure to understand that horrible things happen in the world. I understand it academically, but every time I see or read something like this I realise that I don't really understand it.
  - buryat 6y ago
    it's just sick entertainment covered by explanation "I need to see how horrible the world is", and being the audience you create demand for future shock content at expense of human lives. There're better ways to educate yourself and make the world a better place.
    - philosopher1234 6y ago
      This seems too reductionist. It can both be sick entertainment and educational and socially valuable at the same time.
    - wyattpeak 6y ago
      On the contrary, I don't find it entertaining at all. In fact I generally can't bring myself to watch LiveLeak videos, those text descriptions are my limit. But I do think my understanding of such situations is poorer for not doing so.
    - 6y ago
PostOnce 6y ago
Your first point, sad as it is, reminded me of this article I read, which gives clarity on how child soldiers are made in a way that I haven't read elsewhere, despite reading books on exactly that subject https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-part-i-spartan-school/ https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-p... Not related, but I'll just close by saying I didn't have the same respect that I now have for rotating shafts at industrial facilities until I saw some industrial accidents on the internet. Lo and behold years later, as a programmer, I'm working at a factory automating some things and there it is, an un-shrouded rotating shaft connected to a fairly large motor, right there at ankle level. Stink was raised, shroud was installed.
- bartread 6y ago
  Some months back I saw footage of a lathe accident in a Russian factor (it was on Reddit but possibly the footage was linked from LiveLeak). Similar to you I have developed a much stronger respect for heavy machinery. It's even made me more careful when I use obviously much smaller power tools at home. Tools like circular saws, mitre saws, and even angle grinders have the ability to irreversibly change your life (or worse) in the blink of an eye if not handled with care and respect. Just thinking about that video again has made me feel slightly queasy, but there's no doubt seeing it has done me a huge favour.
  - _carbyau_ 6y ago
    Circular saws, mitre saws are sold with protective elements where I live. To respect, but it won't jump out and hurt you. Angle grinders are next level, fundamental "respect or you'll be maimed" stuff. Angular momentum is not as fundamentally easy to judge and is easily underestimated.
    - bartread 6y ago
      > Circular saws, mitre saws are sold with protective elements where I live. To respect, but it won't jump out and hurt you. That's true but they're not sufficient to protect against all injuries if you don't take proper precautions. And, as far as circular saws go, you're flat out wrong about them not jumping and hurting you: if they bind up in the wood that's exactly what can happen in the worst case. It's called kickback.
ycombinete 6y ago
I suppose we’ll just have to download our favourite facets-of-the-world gore, to show to our children as they come of age.
Bancakes 6y ago
For me, it was a Kurdish soldier on the ground getting shot in the head with a AK from point blank. There were no bits and fragments flying around, his skull just broke apart and his head flattened uncannily like a squished rubber toy and his eyes popped out. In another video, a ISIS (?) soldier gets shot in the head, and falls to the ground. We see him struggling to get up while a viscous red liquid pours out the side of his head. Just pours out. No pink mist or giblets. He didn't die instantly. This broke the preconceptions I had from movies and videogames. I consider it an important milestone.
- worker767424 6y ago
  > I consider it an important milestone. Milestone in what?
  - Bancakes 6y ago
    Maturing and learning of the dangers around us. We can't wait for natural selection to teach us, it's good to have a rough idea of how non-telegraphed and rapid emergency situations are.
- Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
  Those types of videos gave me a new fear. I've never been one to fear death, but now I fear being in severe agony where I question why I'm not dead and wish I was. The worst I saw was one where they gouged a guy's eyes out, skinned his face, and cut off his hands and feet, and he was still alive and seemed conscious and aware. Then there's the infamous 2-guys-1-hammer video.
- b0rsuk 6y ago
  I think they do it for lower age ratings. In video games, people just drop and stop moving, and often there's even no blood. No visible pain or struggle. I think it desensitizes people to violence. In reality, after a large scale battle the field is littered with people writhing in agony. It commonly takes several hours for a wounded person to die. Several hours of pain, as you slowly realize no one is going to help you and you're not going to make it.
Apaec 6y ago
There's a site called theync.com(I suggest not going there), which was always more gruesome than LiveLeak. I never understood how they operate. Always thought search engines should ban the site or something.
- ta_ca 6y ago
  clicked a few light links (no gore, no blood) and the more shocking part was the comments... they can't be real people, it has got to be a bot and/or honeypot of some kind.
  - spoonjim 6y ago
    They are real commenters but they’re in a game to say the most provocative stuff they can in a pseudonymous forum.
dingoegret 6y ago
For me it was 1) gruesome abortions conducted in some western country 2) Denmark a man (immigrant?) was immolated outside his home by a crowd. They are shouting 3) man is hacked by a machete in the UK by some edl member 4) America a guy was run over by a truck and gets stuck on the wheels, still alive. crowd just blankly watches. truck begins to move
- andromeduck 6y ago
  The guy who got cut in half on a train platform. lathes, printing presses, other industrial incidents.
dabernathy89 6y ago
I stopped visiting the site after viewing a video of cartel torture that was worse than anything I'd ever seen. I still see it in my head all the time. Although LL certainly helped meet the morbid curiosity a lot of us have, I am ultimately glad it's now harder to find this kind of content.
- nlitened 6y ago
  Did seeing that clip make you a worse person?
- brokenmachine 6y ago
  Funky town?
  - dabernathy89 6y ago
    Yeah.
Flow 6y ago
The ISIS slaughter house video is stuck in my mind. Lots of orange dressed and back-tied prisoners hanging on hooks. One is on the floor and they slowly cut/grind off his head with gurgling bloody noises. I read that everyone in that room is high of drugs. Prisoners and executioner. But then, and this makes me want to shut the borders around EU and North America and a few Asian countries, you watch some gore videos from South America and you realize that ISIS has nothing on these drug cartels. The drug cartels are truly completely fucked in the heads. And they slowly ruin country after country. It's just a question of time before we see strong presence of US/UN military and drug deregulation(whether you want it or not) to prevent a complete collapse of those societies and the whole of South America. Or maybe I've seen too many horrible gore videos?
nickthemagicman 6y ago
For me it was the crackhead who climbed the telephone pole, got electrocuted by touching the wires, which caused him to fall off the pole, and then he then just stood up and walked off while on fire. It made me both want to avoid crack and want to do crack. That kind of invulnerability would be incredible.

ergot_vacation 6y ago

Appreciate you and others detailing some of this stuff in this thread. I mostly have to stay aware from content like this; don't really have the psychology for it. But I'm glad it's documented.

causality0 6y ago

LiveLeak definitely had the ability to change you. There was a video from a dashcam where a couple is driving down a road, and a brick or rock falls off a truck driving the opposite way. It bounces on the road before slamming through the windshield and instantly killing the wife sitting in the passenger seat. Whenever I feel like a member of my family has gotten on my last nerve, pushed me to my limit, I think of the sounds that man made as he looked at his wife and my anger just melts away. LiveLeak may have scarred me but it taught me not to ever take the people I love for granted.

deleted 6y ago
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ilugaslifk 6y ago
That exact video changed my life in exactly the same way. Thank you for putting it so well. RIP LiveLeak. Its loss is a tragedy that is hard to quantify. Perhaps a catastrophe, that nobody will ever understand the full invisible scale of.
enw 6y ago
The video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iazTQVi1CEE https://youtube.com/watch?v=iazTQVi1CEE Skip to 1:45. Warning, it’s disturbing. Perhaps in a good way.
- andromeduck 6y ago
  Holy shit I've never seen the full video before. It's so much more chilling then the 20s clip.
Clubber 6y ago
Be careful with that stuff. There are only so many scars you can accumulate before it really affects you. Life will give you scars all by itself eventually, no need to seek them out.
- weswpg 6y ago
  This generation has experienced an unprecedented amount of isolation from danger and I think we are far closer to a state where we need to be more exposed to the lessons those dangers teach than we are to being over-exposed
- hoseja 6y ago
  Or, you can embrace the abyss and find out what's on the other side.
  - gameshot911 6y ago

buryat 6y ago

read your depicts and > I think the world has lost a valuable resource. nothing of the value has been lost. You don't need to see this to understand that horrible things happen in the world.

tux1968 6y ago
With respect, a lot of people disagree with you... even a lot of people posting personal testimonials on this page. Seeing something can have a much more profound impact than simply being told about it.
wyattpeak 6y ago
I think the very fact that reading those descriptions is confronting, if it is to you as it is to me, is evidence that you do need exposure to understand that horrible things happen in the world. I understand it academically, but every time I see or read something like this I realise that I don't really understand it.
- buryat 6y ago
  it's just sick entertainment covered by explanation "I need to see how horrible the world is", and being the audience you create demand for future shock content at expense of human lives. There're better ways to educate yourself and make the world a better place.
  - philosopher1234 6y ago
    This seems too reductionist. It can both be sick entertainment and educational and socially valuable at the same time.
  - wyattpeak 6y ago
    On the contrary, I don't find it entertaining at all. In fact I generally can't bring myself to watch LiveLeak videos, those text descriptions are my limit. But I do think my understanding of such situations is poorer for not doing so.
  - 6y ago

PostOnce 6y ago

Your first point, sad as it is, reminded me of this article I read, which gives clarity on how child soldiers are made in a way that I haven't read elsewhere, despite reading books on exactly that subject https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-part-i-spartan-school/ https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-p... Not related, but I'll just close by saying I didn't have the same respect that I now have for rotating shafts at industrial facilities until I saw some industrial accidents on the internet. Lo and behold years later, as a programmer, I'm working at a factory automating some things and there it is, an un-shrouded rotating shaft connected to a fairly large motor, right there at ankle level. Stink was raised, shroud was installed.

bartread 6y ago
Some months back I saw footage of a lathe accident in a Russian factor (it was on Reddit but possibly the footage was linked from LiveLeak). Similar to you I have developed a much stronger respect for heavy machinery. It's even made me more careful when I use obviously much smaller power tools at home. Tools like circular saws, mitre saws, and even angle grinders have the ability to irreversibly change your life (or worse) in the blink of an eye if not handled with care and respect. Just thinking about that video again has made me feel slightly queasy, but there's no doubt seeing it has done me a huge favour.
- _carbyau_ 6y ago
  Circular saws, mitre saws are sold with protective elements where I live. To respect, but it won't jump out and hurt you. Angle grinders are next level, fundamental "respect or you'll be maimed" stuff. Angular momentum is not as fundamentally easy to judge and is easily underestimated.
  - bartread 6y ago
    > Circular saws, mitre saws are sold with protective elements where I live. To respect, but it won't jump out and hurt you. That's true but they're not sufficient to protect against all injuries if you don't take proper precautions. And, as far as circular saws go, you're flat out wrong about them not jumping and hurting you: if they bind up in the wood that's exactly what can happen in the worst case. It's called kickback.

ycombinete 6y ago

I suppose we’ll just have to download our favourite facets-of-the-world gore, to show to our children as they come of age.

Bancakes 6y ago

For me, it was a Kurdish soldier on the ground getting shot in the head with a AK from point blank. There were no bits and fragments flying around, his skull just broke apart and his head flattened uncannily like a squished rubber toy and his eyes popped out. In another video, a ISIS (?) soldier gets shot in the head, and falls to the ground. We see him struggling to get up while a viscous red liquid pours out the side of his head. Just pours out. No pink mist or giblets. He didn't die instantly. This broke the preconceptions I had from movies and videogames. I consider it an important milestone.

worker767424 6y ago
> I consider it an important milestone. Milestone in what?
- Bancakes 6y ago
  Maturing and learning of the dangers around us. We can't wait for natural selection to teach us, it's good to have a rough idea of how non-telegraphed and rapid emergency situations are.
Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
Those types of videos gave me a new fear. I've never been one to fear death, but now I fear being in severe agony where I question why I'm not dead and wish I was. The worst I saw was one where they gouged a guy's eyes out, skinned his face, and cut off his hands and feet, and he was still alive and seemed conscious and aware. Then there's the infamous 2-guys-1-hammer video.
b0rsuk 6y ago
I think they do it for lower age ratings. In video games, people just drop and stop moving, and often there's even no blood. No visible pain or struggle. I think it desensitizes people to violence. In reality, after a large scale battle the field is littered with people writhing in agony. It commonly takes several hours for a wounded person to die. Several hours of pain, as you slowly realize no one is going to help you and you're not going to make it.

Apaec 6y ago

There's a site called theync.com(I suggest not going there), which was always more gruesome than LiveLeak. I never understood how they operate. Always thought search engines should ban the site or something.

ta_ca 6y ago
clicked a few light links (no gore, no blood) and the more shocking part was the comments... they can't be real people, it has got to be a bot and/or honeypot of some kind.
- spoonjim 6y ago
  They are real commenters but they’re in a game to say the most provocative stuff they can in a pseudonymous forum.

dingoegret 6y ago

For me it was 1) gruesome abortions conducted in some western country 2) Denmark a man (immigrant?) was immolated outside his home by a crowd. They are shouting 3) man is hacked by a machete in the UK by some edl member 4) America a guy was run over by a truck and gets stuck on the wheels, still alive. crowd just blankly watches. truck begins to move

andromeduck 6y ago
The guy who got cut in half on a train platform. lathes, printing presses, other industrial incidents.

dabernathy89 6y ago

I stopped visiting the site after viewing a video of cartel torture that was worse than anything I'd ever seen. I still see it in my head all the time. Although LL certainly helped meet the morbid curiosity a lot of us have, I am ultimately glad it's now harder to find this kind of content.

nlitened 6y ago
Did seeing that clip make you a worse person?
brokenmachine 6y ago
Funky town?
- dabernathy89 6y ago
  Yeah.

Flow 6y ago

The ISIS slaughter house video is stuck in my mind. Lots of orange dressed and back-tied prisoners hanging on hooks. One is on the floor and they slowly cut/grind off his head with gurgling bloody noises. I read that everyone in that room is high of drugs. Prisoners and executioner. But then, and this makes me want to shut the borders around EU and North America and a few Asian countries, you watch some gore videos from South America and you realize that ISIS has nothing on these drug cartels. The drug cartels are truly completely fucked in the heads. And they slowly ruin country after country. It's just a question of time before we see strong presence of US/UN military and drug deregulation(whether you want it or not) to prevent a complete collapse of those societies and the whole of South America. Or maybe I've seen too many horrible gore videos?

nickthemagicman 6y ago

For me it was the crackhead who climbed the telephone pole, got electrocuted by touching the wires, which caused him to fall off the pole, and then he then just stood up and walked off while on fire. It made me both want to avoid crack and want to do crack. That kind of invulnerability would be incredible.