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The Google equivalent of a chipping block in most cases is not getting promoted Do tell, given what you know about the Google promotion process, how a choice t

The Google equivalent of a chipping block in most cases is not getting promoted Do tell, given what you know about the Google promotion process, how a choice to work remotely would translate to a decreased likelihood to be promoted (and, importantly, to an unfair degree)?

yamellasmallela 5y ago
If you don't get promotions you lose certain stock grants which greatly reduces your pay The entire system is a scam and built specifically to keep you at google and drinking the kool aid
- solipsism 5y ago
  You're misinformed. Please stop spreading misinformation.
  - tdeck 5y ago
    That's not entirely untrue. Even if you do get promoted, the four year cliff is real. I got promoted and still experienced a substantial loss in total comp at year 4, with good performance and what seemed to be typical refresh grants.
    - UncleMeat 5y ago
      But that’s the opposite of what the post said. The cliff is real and happens regardless of promo because everybody gets refreshes every year regardless of promotions.
tdeck 5y ago
Realized I have a typo from relying too heavily on auto-correct. Sorry about that. I worked at Google for four years. I've seen many people I know basically "play it safe" by making conservative decisions in order to minimize the likelihood of hurting one's promo chances. Despite all the talk about this, nobody really knows for sure what will affect their promo. For example, people will stay on a team they hate rather than risk "resetting the promo clock". There is also a general understanding that being outside the Bay Area hurts your career growth. Given these tendencies and the fact that people who work remotely often find themselves more isolated than their in-office colleagues, I fully expect that people will hesitate to adopt remote work if they're not in the majority.
- solipsism 5y ago
  * There is also a general understanding * Got it. So when it was asked, "how many know they're on the chopping block if they work remotely" and it was redefined to ask "how many know their chances for promotion might be affected by working remotely?"... The answer is "almost everyone". Many people will happily choose to work remotely, even if it makes promotion harder, because that's a good trade-off for them. Exactly like people will happily work from other offices. So what's the problem?
  - tdeck 5y ago
    Do you realize I am not the person who wrote the original "chopping block" comment? I'm just adding context here based on my experience. I don't understand why your tone in this thread is so hostile.
    - solipsism 5y ago
      It's kind of strange to wander into a conversation, and then balk at the fact that people expect your contributions to be relevant to the conversation.

yamellasmallela 5y ago

If you don't get promotions you lose certain stock grants which greatly reduces your pay The entire system is a scam and built specifically to keep you at google and drinking the kool aid

solipsism 5y ago
You're misinformed. Please stop spreading misinformation.
- tdeck 5y ago
  That's not entirely untrue. Even if you do get promoted, the four year cliff is real. I got promoted and still experienced a substantial loss in total comp at year 4, with good performance and what seemed to be typical refresh grants.
  - UncleMeat 5y ago
    But that’s the opposite of what the post said. The cliff is real and happens regardless of promo because everybody gets refreshes every year regardless of promotions.

tdeck 5y ago

Realized I have a typo from relying too heavily on auto-correct. Sorry about that. I worked at Google for four years. I've seen many people I know basically "play it safe" by making conservative decisions in order to minimize the likelihood of hurting one's promo chances. Despite all the talk about this, nobody really knows for sure what will affect their promo. For example, people will stay on a team they hate rather than risk "resetting the promo clock". There is also a general understanding that being outside the Bay Area hurts your career growth. Given these tendencies and the fact that people who work remotely often find themselves more isolated than their in-office colleagues, I fully expect that people will hesitate to adopt remote work if they're not in the majority.

solipsism 5y ago
* There is also a general understanding * Got it. So when it was asked, "how many know they're on the chopping block if they work remotely" and it was redefined to ask "how many know their chances for promotion might be affected by working remotely?"... The answer is "almost everyone". Many people will happily choose to work remotely, even if it makes promotion harder, because that's a good trade-off for them. Exactly like people will happily work from other offices. So what's the problem?
- tdeck 5y ago
  Do you realize I am not the person who wrote the original "chopping block" comment? I'm just adding context here based on my experience. I don't understand why your tone in this thread is so hostile.
  - solipsism 5y ago
    It's kind of strange to wander into a conversation, and then balk at the fact that people expect your contributions to be relevant to the conversation.