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AFAIU, at least as it regards federal copyright law "scope of employment" is usually interpreted very liberally in favor of the employer. I can't speak to Calif
by wahern 6y ago
AFAIU, at least as it regards federal copyright law "scope of employment" is usually interpreted very liberally in favor of the employer. I can't speak to California case law, but I suspect that the tolerance Silicon Valley has historically shown to employees walking away w/ their "personal time" projects is more a reflection of the normative business culture than a legal restraint. I wouldn't expect IBM to walk away from WhatsApp the same way Yahoo did if one of their Almaden employees had created it.
Twice I've asked an employer for an amendment to the assignment contract to say that only works developed on my own time "with the primary purpose of benefiting the company" were assignable. Though, the second time I was told to f' off; to take it or leave it.
Now, California's legal hostility toward non-compete agreements is clear. It's not just because of the statutory law, but also because of precedent. Other jurisdictions could and have interpreted similar language differently (including other states interpreting California statutes, IIRC). That hostility is usually what people refer to, or would mean to refer to it they understood the nuances.
- ido 6y agoAs you mentioned it I was to reiterate: you can negotiate on anything. Every time I had a non-compete clause in the contract (fortunately not that ubiquitous in Germany) I negotiated with the company to take it out & every time they eventually agreed (once I had to reached a compromise that I should inform them of such projects but the IP remains mine). A lot of the time you'll hear "oh this is a standard contract, everyone signs it & we don't make exceptions". If they want you bad enough they will make an exception.
- nerdponx 6y agoIf they want you bad enough they will make an exception. Most people don't have the luxury of walking away from an employer that won't make an exception with the confidence that they can find an employer who will.