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Does the naming bother anyone else? It's even less a Starship than an actual interstellar spacecraft than the Tesla self-driving tech is Autopilot. This type of

Does the naming bother anyone else? It's even less a Starship than an actual interstellar spacecraft than the Tesla self-driving tech is Autopilot. This type of bullshit branding just rubs me the wrong way. Edit: Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer. You can disagree as much as you want, it won't make the rocket a starship...

newsclues 5y ago
No, I’m just happy people are launching new rockets. Imagine getting pissed off about the name of a breakthrough rocket.
- decebalus1 5y ago
  Not saying I'm not happy people are launching rockets. That's awesome. And I'm not 'pissed'. Just call them rockets, not starships. If tomorrow I write a wrapper on top of grep and call it a 'search engine', half of hackernews is gonna jump at my throat bUt ThAt'sNoT aSeaRchEngInE!!!
  - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
    And yet people still refer to the orbiter as the Space Shuttle, when it isn't
    - decebalus1 5y ago
      which orbiter? What?
      - lutorm 5y ago
        Presumably he's talking about the Space Transportation System, colloquially known as the "Space Shuttle".
bkanber 5y ago
Are q-tips shaped like a Q? Are Ford Explorers actually used for exploring? Is the Magic Bullet a type of ammunition that kills magical creatures? Is Wonderbread really wonderful?
- decebalus1 5y ago
  bad analogies all around. My sedan is not called a truck. You're also a CTO, not a CEO. And the Q from Q-tips stands for 'quality'. But they're not called Q-clubs or Q-poles, right? This is a starship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship. The SpaceX starship is a spacecraft named like an interstellar spacecraft. Like naming the Dodge Dart as Dodge truck. Next year, Toyota is gonna rename the Camry as Tundra and when people complain, they're gonna say 'Is Wonderbread really wonderful?'
  - mulmen 5y ago
    I look forward to the time when the SpaceX Starship is actually an ambiguous name.
  - bkanber 5y ago
    You definitely missed my point. Products do not have to be named in a semantically correct, technical and pedantic manner. SpaceX isn't advertising flights to Alpha Centauri, so what's the problem? The entire world knows that actual starships as per your definition don't exist. Nobody's going to get confused or misled by this. Also I notice you didn't say anything about the Magic Bullet. So at least one of my analogies were ok. If there was one that worked, there exist others. Don't bash the concept just because I couldn't furnish a list of 100 acceptable examples for you off the top of my head. Also, most people call their SUVs or CUVs "trucks". They are not trucks, yet we call them that. It's just how language is used, dude. There are so many more important things to get upset about IMO. Or, better yet, life is much happier if you're a leaf on a stream.
    - decebalus1 5y ago
      > Also I notice you didn't say anything about the Magic Bullet. So at least one of my analogies were ok. If there was one that worked, there exist others. Don't bash the concept just because I couldn't furnish a list of 100 examples for you off the top of my head. It's not about examples specifically. It's about bullshit marketing. Same as with the Tesla Autopilot, but in this case, you're not the customer so probably that's why you're missing the point. For each analogy you make, I can counter it with one that proves it's bullshit. > Also, most people call their SUVs or CUVs "trucks". They are not trucks, yet we call them that. I haven't met anyone on this content to call a SUV a 'truck'. Also, I was saying something about sedans though.. > It's just how language is used, dude. Not a dude. > better to just be a leaf on a stream. You're right. I'll go outside now to unwind and ride my gunboat on the bike trail.
alonmower 5y ago
Well, there's at least one star you can fly it to
- decebalus1 5y ago
  I guess that's technically true.
  - dtparr 5y ago
    I'm not so sure. Getting to Mars and back is relatively easy delta V-wise relative to even a transfer orbit to the sun. Not sure if gravity assists could make up the difference or not.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Actually not. That takes way more delta-V than it can do. Even starting fully fueled from Earth orbit.
  - alonmower 5y ago
    Wow you’re right, have to slow way down to get there

newsclues 5y ago

No, I’m just happy people are launching new rockets. Imagine getting pissed off about the name of a breakthrough rocket.

decebalus1 5y ago
Not saying I'm not happy people are launching rockets. That's awesome. And I'm not 'pissed'. Just call them rockets, not starships. If tomorrow I write a wrapper on top of grep and call it a 'search engine', half of hackernews is gonna jump at my throat bUt ThAt'sNoT aSeaRchEngInE!!!
- NikolaeVarius 5y ago
  And yet people still refer to the orbiter as the Space Shuttle, when it isn't
  - decebalus1 5y ago
    which orbiter? What?
    - lutorm 5y ago
      Presumably he's talking about the Space Transportation System, colloquially known as the "Space Shuttle".

bkanber 5y ago

Are q-tips shaped like a Q? Are Ford Explorers actually used for exploring? Is the Magic Bullet a type of ammunition that kills magical creatures? Is Wonderbread really wonderful?

decebalus1 5y ago
bad analogies all around. My sedan is not called a truck. You're also a CTO, not a CEO. And the Q from Q-tips stands for 'quality'. But they're not called Q-clubs or Q-poles, right? This is a starship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship. The SpaceX starship is a spacecraft named like an interstellar spacecraft. Like naming the Dodge Dart as Dodge truck. Next year, Toyota is gonna rename the Camry as Tundra and when people complain, they're gonna say 'Is Wonderbread really wonderful?'
- mulmen 5y ago
  I look forward to the time when the SpaceX Starship is actually an ambiguous name.
- bkanber 5y ago
  You definitely missed my point. Products do not have to be named in a semantically correct, technical and pedantic manner. SpaceX isn't advertising flights to Alpha Centauri, so what's the problem? The entire world knows that actual starships as per your definition don't exist. Nobody's going to get confused or misled by this. Also I notice you didn't say anything about the Magic Bullet. So at least one of my analogies were ok. If there was one that worked, there exist others. Don't bash the concept just because I couldn't furnish a list of 100 acceptable examples for you off the top of my head. Also, most people call their SUVs or CUVs "trucks". They are not trucks, yet we call them that. It's just how language is used, dude. There are so many more important things to get upset about IMO. Or, better yet, life is much happier if you're a leaf on a stream.
  - decebalus1 5y ago
    > Also I notice you didn't say anything about the Magic Bullet. So at least one of my analogies were ok. If there was one that worked, there exist others. Don't bash the concept just because I couldn't furnish a list of 100 examples for you off the top of my head. It's not about examples specifically. It's about bullshit marketing. Same as with the Tesla Autopilot, but in this case, you're not the customer so probably that's why you're missing the point. For each analogy you make, I can counter it with one that proves it's bullshit. > Also, most people call their SUVs or CUVs "trucks". They are not trucks, yet we call them that. I haven't met anyone on this content to call a SUV a 'truck'. Also, I was saying something about sedans though.. > It's just how language is used, dude. Not a dude. > better to just be a leaf on a stream. You're right. I'll go outside now to unwind and ride my gunboat on the bike trail.

alonmower 5y ago

Well, there's at least one star you can fly it to

decebalus1 5y ago
I guess that's technically true.
- dtparr 5y ago
  I'm not so sure. Getting to Mars and back is relatively easy delta V-wise relative to even a transfer orbit to the sun. Not sure if gravity assists could make up the difference or not.
ncmncm 5y ago
Actually not. That takes way more delta-V than it can do. Even starting fully fueled from Earth orbit.
- alonmower 5y ago
  Wow you’re right, have to slow way down to get there