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With the vast majority of people who died in first world counties already being close to deaths door I don't think that's a good stat maybe something more like

With the vast majority of people who died in first world counties already being close to deaths door I don't think that's a good stat maybe something more like total estimated years of life lost.

whimsicalism 6y ago
Estimates for average life lost per covid death is around ~15 years. Sure, it killed plenty of old people, but it also killed plenty of middle aged/older middle aged people that had plenty of time left. But I'll cede to you that YLL is also a good metric. When comparing two developed nations like Canada and US, most of the difference there will probably be explained by per capita deaths though.
- jdhn 6y ago
  >Estimates for average life lost per covid death is around ~15 years Source?
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83040-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83040-3 I also saw a US specific article but can't find it off the top of my head.
- ryandrake 6y ago
  As someone getting up there in age, it's kind of shocking how cavalier a few people seem to be about old people dying from COVID. "Close to death's door?" Years of Life Lost as a measurement? Really? It's like we're living in Logan's Run. My parents are elderly but they might just live for 25 more years--who knows? If they or someone else's grandparents were to die of COVID it would be no less tragic than if a 30 year old died of it.
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    I don't think we should be cavalier about the deaths of elderly and I generally agree with you about the rhetoric, but I can't say I really agree about the "no less tragic" comment.
  - refurb 6y ago
    I think the point is we have up to 80,000 flu deaths each year in the US. If Covid never happened and 80,000 people died of the flu nobody would bat an eye.
    - maxerickson 6y ago
      You talk like the big ongoing campaign to increase flu vaccination rates is some sort of accident.
    - raydev 6y ago
      Yes, because we knew how to deal with 80k. Suddenly we had to deal with 400k, which is a much larger number.

With the vast majority of people who died in first world counties already being close to deaths door I don't think that's a good stat maybe something more like total estimated years of life lost.

whimsicalism 6y ago

Estimates for average life lost per covid death is around ~15 years. Sure, it killed plenty of old people, but it also killed plenty of middle aged/older middle aged people that had plenty of time left. But I'll cede to you that YLL is also a good metric. When comparing two developed nations like Canada and US, most of the difference there will probably be explained by per capita deaths though.

jdhn 6y ago
>Estimates for average life lost per covid death is around ~15 years Source?
- whimsicalism 6y ago
  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83040-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83040-3 I also saw a US specific article but can't find it off the top of my head.
ryandrake 6y ago
As someone getting up there in age, it's kind of shocking how cavalier a few people seem to be about old people dying from COVID. "Close to death's door?" Years of Life Lost as a measurement? Really? It's like we're living in Logan's Run. My parents are elderly but they might just live for 25 more years--who knows? If they or someone else's grandparents were to die of COVID it would be no less tragic than if a 30 year old died of it.
- whimsicalism 6y ago
  I don't think we should be cavalier about the deaths of elderly and I generally agree with you about the rhetoric, but I can't say I really agree about the "no less tragic" comment.
- refurb 6y ago
  I think the point is we have up to 80,000 flu deaths each year in the US. If Covid never happened and 80,000 people died of the flu nobody would bat an eye.
  - maxerickson 6y ago
    You talk like the big ongoing campaign to increase flu vaccination rates is some sort of accident.
  - raydev 6y ago
    Yes, because we knew how to deal with 80k. Suddenly we had to deal with 400k, which is a much larger number.