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Powershell solved all this, Intellisense, introspection, apis for compiled apps (although I think .NET is only), typed output. Still hasn't caught fire though,

by jayd16 6y ago

Powershell solved all this, Intellisense, introspection, apis for compiled apps (although I think .NET is only), typed output. Still hasn't caught fire though, even for me. I respect it but I still reach for bash. I'm not really sure why except perhaps momentum.

geocar 6y ago
There are advantages to text. Some of my favourites: 1. Humans can understand text too! 2. Text can travel over every transport. 3. Text is benign. 4. Large text is large and small text is small, but all objects look the same size.
- jayd16 6y ago
  You still have text. Everything can still be parsed.
  - geocar 6y ago
    No. Even in Powershell type fidelity and other data loss is inevitable when objects are serialised (what most people call "parsed").
airstrike 6y ago
Not sure how much of this still applies, but I remember reading this a while back when I also realized PS just didn't click for me https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-woes-of-powershell-8737e5346b1 https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-woes-of-powershell-8737e5...
- godtoldmetodoit 6y ago
  Got about a quarter of the way through and none of it applied to modern Powershell.
- _carbyau_ 6y ago
  Reading that link, even back when it was written it feels like an article of first impressions with the bias of someone comfortable with many hours of use of a Unix shell. 1. Powershell isn't a complete greenfield and exists in a context, which explains many of the complaints. 2. any new tech use requires learning. I could address each point but most galling was the conclusion: "At this point we realise the truth — PowerShell is not designed to be an actual shell for users" Because wget did not output to a file by default?!? Really?!? IMO, this article failed to hit the mark back in 2014 when it was written let alone now. Edit: conciseness
- majkinetor 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27055991 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27055991

by jayd16 6y ago

geocar 6y ago

There are advantages to text. Some of my favourites: 1. Humans can understand text too! 2. Text can travel over every transport. 3. Text is benign. 4. Large text is large and small text is small, but all objects look the same size.

jayd16 6y ago
You still have text. Everything can still be parsed.
- geocar 6y ago
  No. Even in Powershell type fidelity and other data loss is inevitable when objects are serialised (what most people call "parsed").

airstrike 6y ago

Not sure how much of this still applies, but I remember reading this a while back when I also realized PS just didn't click for me https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-woes-of-powershell-8737e5346b1 https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-woes-of-powershell-8737e5...

godtoldmetodoit 6y ago
Got about a quarter of the way through and none of it applied to modern Powershell.
_carbyau_ 6y ago
Reading that link, even back when it was written it feels like an article of first impressions with the bias of someone comfortable with many hours of use of a Unix shell. 1. Powershell isn't a complete greenfield and exists in a context, which explains many of the complaints. 2. any new tech use requires learning. I could address each point but most galling was the conclusion: "At this point we realise the truth — PowerShell is not designed to be an actual shell for users" Because wget did not output to a file by default?!? Really?!? IMO, this article failed to hit the mark back in 2014 when it was written let alone now. Edit: conciseness
majkinetor 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27055991 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27055991