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I suppose we also have no verification that the passwords are no longer stored in plain text either, so changing it seems to be postponing the inevitable -- it

by rkalla 15y ago

I suppose we also have no verification that the passwords are no longer stored in plain text either, so changing it seems to be postponing the inevitable -- it is now a target for getting hacked again, with a delicious plain text payload as the reward for anyone doing it. If my doctor was leaking my medical records left and right to advertisers around town, I would sue him... at some point leaking my online identity has to have some sort of repercussions behind it besides me getting online and being openly angry on the internet. Yep, that'll do it ;) ADDENDUM. Speak of the devil (another HN story): http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/06/cloud-site-dropbox-drops-the-ball.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/06/cloud-site-dro...

nickolai 15y ago
> If my doctor was leaking my medical records left and right to advertisers around town, I would sue him... at some point leaking my online identity has to have some sort of repercussions behind it besides me getting online and being openly angry on the internet. What would you do ? sue them? The EULA you have accepted usually forbids it, or limits the amount of damages you can claim to a few bucks. I am not a lawyer, but i doubt such an EULA would be declared void in court.
- pavel_lishin 15y ago
  Somehow, I think this wouldn't be the case. Otherwise, doctors would be throwing EULA agreements left and right, and saving millions on malpractice insurance fees.
  - sunir 15y ago
    They do. They are called waivers. You sign them all the time when using the health care system.
    - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
      I've never seen a complete waiver of rights. What you typically sign is an agreement to try arbitration before (or instead of) suing in the courts. I don't believe it is possible to waive the ability to be penalized for negligence, just the venue the penalty is assessed in. Of course, said arbiter is much less likely to give out a seven digit award than a jury is.
woodall 15y ago
Wrote a quick command line Gmail password changer for this type of thing; if I see my username I can go ahead and start changing passwords. Hopefully I'll pound more out this weekend. http://christopherwoodall.com/gmail.py http://christopherwoodall.com/gmail.py

by rkalla 15y ago

nickolai 15y ago

> If my doctor was leaking my medical records left and right to advertisers around town, I would sue him... at some point leaking my online identity has to have some sort of repercussions behind it besides me getting online and being openly angry on the internet. What would you do ? sue them? The EULA you have accepted usually forbids it, or limits the amount of damages you can claim to a few bucks. I am not a lawyer, but i doubt such an EULA would be declared void in court.

pavel_lishin 15y ago
Somehow, I think this wouldn't be the case. Otherwise, doctors would be throwing EULA agreements left and right, and saving millions on malpractice insurance fees.
- sunir 15y ago
  They do. They are called waivers. You sign them all the time when using the health care system.
  - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
    I've never seen a complete waiver of rights. What you typically sign is an agreement to try arbitration before (or instead of) suing in the courts. I don't believe it is possible to waive the ability to be penalized for negligence, just the venue the penalty is assessed in. Of course, said arbiter is much less likely to give out a seven digit award than a jury is.

woodall 15y ago

Wrote a quick command line Gmail password changer for this type of thing; if I see my username I can go ahead and start changing passwords. Hopefully I'll pound more out this weekend. http://christopherwoodall.com/gmail.py http://christopherwoodall.com/gmail.py