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> His speech was at best divisive and contained many euphemisms, if not straight calls to violence by using words like "fight." Here are all references to the
by koolba 6y ago
> His speech was at best divisive and contained many euphemisms, if not straight calls to violence by using words like "fight."
Here are all references to the word "fight" in that speech (Full transcript is here: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-13/transcript-of-trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-13/tra...):
* And Rudy, you did a great job. He’s got guts. You know what? He’s got guts, unlike a lot of people in the Republican Party. He’s got guts. He fights, he fights.
* For years, Democrats have gotten away with election fraud and weak Republicans. And that’s what they are. There’s so many weak Republicans. And we have great ones. Jim Jordan and some of these guys, they’re out there fighting. The House guys are fighting. But it’s, it’s incredible.
* And you have to get your people to fight. And if they don’t fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don’t fight. You primary them. We’re going to. We’re going to let you know who they are. I can already tell you, frankly.
* Republicans are, Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer. And we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. And we’re going to have to fight much harder.
* But we’ve done it quickly and we were going to sit home and watch a big victory and everybody had us down for a victory. It was going to be great and now we’re out here fighting. I said to somebody, I was going to take a few days and relax after our big electoral victory. 10 o’clock it was over. But I was going to take a few days.
* The American people do not believe the corrupt, fake news anymore. They have ruined their reputation. But you know, it used to be that they’d argue with me. I’d fight. So I’d fight, they’d fight, I’d fight, they’d fight. Pop pop. You’d believe me, you’d believe them. Somebody comes out. You know, they had their point of view, I had my point of view, but you’d have an argument.
* Now what they do is they go silent. It’s called suppression and that’s what happens in a communist country. That’s what they do, they suppress. You don’t fight with them anymore. Unless it’s a bad story. They have a little bad story about me, they make it 10 times worse and it’s a major headline.
* But our fight against the big donors, big media, big tech, and others is just getting started. This is the greatest in history. There’s never been a movement like that.
* And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.
So which of those is a "straight call to violence"?
And just so it's not forgotten, he also said this during the same speech:
* I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
- threatofrain 6y agoAs a devil's advocate: if the presidency was about to be stolen, what must be done to secure heart of the nation? Not fight? What would it mean to get newspaper ads in another nation which asserted that their presidency was being stolen?
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- wernercd 6y agoYears of peaceful gatherings by Trump with more than ample evidence that Trump called for peaceful protests... https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-trump-say-peacefully-patriotically-march-capitol-1561718 https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-trump-say-peacefully... The Ruling Mostly true. The president did say that the crowd was going to march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol. After the attack, Trump said he does not condone violence.
- invisible 6y agoThis is a great article detailing what was said, including why it is only _mostly_ true that he called for peace. > However, it does not necessarily mean the president did not incite violence with the rest of his speech or in his rhetoric prior to January 6.
- wernercd 6y agoThe same people saying he incited violence are the people who back Maxine Waters who's comments led to violence against police. So it's hard to look seriously at those "he incited violence" given his YEARS of similar public gatherings and never having incited violence previously. Key is that he never called for violence, he called for peaceful protests and he condemned the violence. I mean... it doesn't get any simpler than that.
- invisible 6y agoStop straw manning what I said. That speech was written and was trying to accomplish a goal. Ignoring that public speaking is intended to influence people is like pretending that his words didn't matter at all. He mentioned being peaceful once, but then suggested that the nation was being stolen from them and that they should be patriots and fight back.