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Holocaust didn't happen because the people who opposed rounding up people demonstrated as part of their private lives but didn't bring up their objections at wo

by shkkmo 6y ago

Holocaust didn't happen because the people who opposed rounding up people demonstrated as part of their private lives but didn't bring up their objections at work. Pretending that THIS is "literally" why the Holocaust happened borders on anti-semitism. The Holocaust happened because enough peoole there were willing to accept bad things being done when they were done to unpopular groups. The lesson to be learned from it is that even if someone is unpopular, we need to be strive to treat them with humanity.

newacct583 6y ago
I'm sorry, but no. The holocaust absolutely happened because the German people turned a blind eye to what was going on. Because whatever their private feelings might have been, they kept them private because they weren't appropriate to express in public. The German people, in aggregate, were clearly able to stop the holocaust. And it happened anyway. Also let me just note that your casual attempt to accuse me of antisemitism in a thread LITERALLY ABOUT people being casually and unjustly accused of white supremacy is just "chef's kiss" level hypocrisy. Well done.
- shkkmo 6y ago
  > German people turned a blind eye to what was going on. Yes, that is what I said was the cause. That is different from what you said which is that people protesting in their personal live but being unwilling to discuss as part of their professional lives (i.e. compartamentalizing) was the cause. Those germans should have been protesting and fighting back wherever possible, but it absolutely wasn't a limiting of protests to non-professional contexts that caused the Holocaust. > Also let me just note that your casual attempt to accuse me of antisemitism in a thread LITERALLY ABOUT people being casually and unjustly accused of white supremacy is just "chef's kiss" level hypocrisy. Well done. I stand by the assement of the stance that I put forward; it borders on anti-semitism. It sounds like that stance might not be one you intended to take. If so, I suggest re-reading what you wrote to see how it appears you are taking that stance. If you disagree with my assessment of that stance, please explain whitewashing the german response to the rise of the Nazis doesn't border on anti-semitism because what that stance equates to for me is saying: "The germans didn't believe reprehensible things or disregard the humanity of those headed to concentration camps, they just let their professionalism stand in the way of speaking out against the Nazis."
dang 6y ago
The GP shouldn't have gone holocaust but accusing them of anti-semitism is a serious escalation and not at all cool. Please omit such swipes from your comments here. If there's real evidence of anti-semitism, you should let us know at hn@ycombinator.com. But bringing something like that up frivolously, as ammunition in an internet spat, is degrading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by shkkmo 6y ago

newacct583 6y ago

I'm sorry, but no. The holocaust absolutely happened because the German people turned a blind eye to what was going on. Because whatever their private feelings might have been, they kept them private because they weren't appropriate to express in public. The German people, in aggregate, were clearly able to stop the holocaust. And it happened anyway. Also let me just note that your casual attempt to accuse me of antisemitism in a thread LITERALLY ABOUT people being casually and unjustly accused of white supremacy is just "chef's kiss" level hypocrisy. Well done.

shkkmo 6y ago
> German people turned a blind eye to what was going on. Yes, that is what I said was the cause. That is different from what you said which is that people protesting in their personal live but being unwilling to discuss as part of their professional lives (i.e. compartamentalizing) was the cause. Those germans should have been protesting and fighting back wherever possible, but it absolutely wasn't a limiting of protests to non-professional contexts that caused the Holocaust. > Also let me just note that your casual attempt to accuse me of antisemitism in a thread LITERALLY ABOUT people being casually and unjustly accused of white supremacy is just "chef's kiss" level hypocrisy. Well done. I stand by the assement of the stance that I put forward; it borders on anti-semitism. It sounds like that stance might not be one you intended to take. If so, I suggest re-reading what you wrote to see how it appears you are taking that stance. If you disagree with my assessment of that stance, please explain whitewashing the german response to the rise of the Nazis doesn't border on anti-semitism because what that stance equates to for me is saying: "The germans didn't believe reprehensible things or disregard the humanity of those headed to concentration camps, they just let their professionalism stand in the way of speaking out against the Nazis."

dang 6y ago

The GP shouldn't have gone holocaust but accusing them of anti-semitism is a serious escalation and not at all cool. Please omit such swipes from your comments here. If there's real evidence of anti-semitism, you should let us know at hn@ycombinator.com. But bringing something like that up frivolously, as ammunition in an internet spat, is degrading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html