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Most countries are pretty far away from the amount of renewables where you start requiring lots of storage. You can easily do 50% renewables for electricity wit

Most countries are pretty far away from the amount of renewables where you start requiring lots of storage. You can easily do 50% renewables for electricity with hardly any storage at all.

Maximus9000 6y ago
I agree, but not with the "50%" number. “Without technological breakthroughs in efficient, large scale energy storage, it will be difficult to rely on intermittent renewables for much more than 20-30 percent of our electricity.” Steven Chu, Secretary of Energy - 2010. https://grist.org/article/2010-02-22-energy-secretary-steven-chu-posts-nuclear-rationale-on-facebook/ https://grist.org/article/2010-02-22-energy-secretary-steven...
- legulere 6y ago
  The how does Denmark manage 60%, and Germany 50%? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_renewable_electricity_production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_renewab...
  - Maximus9000 6y ago
    Technically, from your own numbers... Denmarks intermittent renewables (wind + solar) is 43%. Germany is 34%. Biofuel & Hydro are not intermittent. I don't know, that's pretty impressive. Maybe they have international connectors with other countries? I think Germany buys Nuclear power from France? or maybe they have a super stable kind of wind.
    - legulere 6y ago
      Germany is a net-exporter of electricity to France. Especially in summer when nuclear reactors have to be shut down, because the water temperature in the streams they use already is too high or when the tide is too low, or in winter when the rivers freeze.
  - suster 6y ago
    They export cheap wind-generated power to Norway when the wind is blowing, and import it back for a higher price when it isn't. Norway has a lot of hydro which they used the revenues from North Sea oil to install. (Their geography and population density also helps.)
  - minigab 6y ago
    "This article is a list of countries and territories by electricity generation from renewable sources every year. Note that most countries import and/or export electricity, so the percentage figures do not reflect the percentage of consumption that is renewable based. "

Most countries are pretty far away from the amount of renewables where you start requiring lots of storage. You can easily do 50% renewables for electricity with hardly any storage at all.

Maximus9000 6y ago

I agree, but not with the "50%" number. “Without technological breakthroughs in efficient, large scale energy storage, it will be difficult to rely on intermittent renewables for much more than 20-30 percent of our electricity.” Steven Chu, Secretary of Energy - 2010. https://grist.org/article/2010-02-22-energy-secretary-steven-chu-posts-nuclear-rationale-on-facebook/ https://grist.org/article/2010-02-22-energy-secretary-steven...

legulere 6y ago
The how does Denmark manage 60%, and Germany 50%? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_renewable_electricity_production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_renewab...
- Maximus9000 6y ago
  Technically, from your own numbers... Denmarks intermittent renewables (wind + solar) is 43%. Germany is 34%. Biofuel & Hydro are not intermittent. I don't know, that's pretty impressive. Maybe they have international connectors with other countries? I think Germany buys Nuclear power from France? or maybe they have a super stable kind of wind.
  - legulere 6y ago
    Germany is a net-exporter of electricity to France. Especially in summer when nuclear reactors have to be shut down, because the water temperature in the streams they use already is too high or when the tide is too low, or in winter when the rivers freeze.
- suster 6y ago
  They export cheap wind-generated power to Norway when the wind is blowing, and import it back for a higher price when it isn't. Norway has a lot of hydro which they used the revenues from North Sea oil to install. (Their geography and population density also helps.)
- minigab 6y ago
  "This article is a list of countries and territories by electricity generation from renewable sources every year. Note that most countries import and/or export electricity, so the percentage figures do not reflect the percentage of consumption that is renewable based. "