> The Earth is struggling to support the current number of people living at western standards. We are having significant effects on the climate and ecology, bu

> The Earth is struggling to support the current number of people living at western standards. We are having significant effects on the climate and ecology, but I don't think it is accurate to say the earth is struggling to support us. > Growth has been slowing which means… we’re still growing. At a time when we’ve blown past the CO2 threshold to reach +2degC with barely a speed bump. I've repeatedly acknowledged the issues we face with global warming. Halting population growth will not solve that problem alone. However you keep bringing up the thermodynamic limit amd the declining population growth and a huge impact on when we reach that limit that you seem to refuse to acknowledge. > If the only real argument you have against this is ad hominem, you’re on shaky ground. I made no ad hominem attack nor did I call you any names, nor did I ascribe any beliefs to you. I meant to be using "you" in the general form to explain where I see a particular line of reasoning headed. I probably should have used a different general form for clarity and I appologize for any confusion. You've explained elsewhere that you aren't going anywhere with your argument and don't believe solutions exist. > Maybe you disagree that we’re past a point of no return I don't believe there is a single point of no return, but I do believe there are a large number of inflection points that if you pass make the problems haeder to solve. We have passed some of them and there are more on the way. The longer we wait to really take these problems seriously, the hardee they are to solve I am still unclear what the "magical thinking" is...