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I’m shocked that what he did is considered criminal and worthy of prison. It should be a civil lawsuit between him and Netflix, and the worst they should be ab

I’m shocked that what he did is considered criminal and worthy of prison. It should be a civil lawsuit between him and Netflix, and the worst they should be able to do is bankrupt him. This guy has not raped anyone, assaulted anyone.. why do we taxpayers need to pay to lock this guy up in a cage? Does no good for anybody.

lainga 5y ago
To encourage the others, maybe?
riku_iki 5y ago
> This guy has not raped anyone, assaulted anyone.. In my mind his crime is much more severe than shoplifting or paying by fake banknotes. > why do we taxpayers need to pay Both, Netflix as a company, and its shareholders are also tax payers, and can expect to be protected from fraud/crimes using taxpayers money.
- caffeine 5y ago
  I guess I don't understand why it's a crime and not just a breach of contract. Imagine if rather than an employee this was a consulting firm that had done the exact same thing (taken payments for signing Netflix up to unnecessary contracts). Nobody would be going to jail, they would just sue the consultancy, which might go out of business.
  - riku_iki 5y ago
    I don't have details in my hands, only pure speculations, but it is likely possible to check on which counts this case has been classified as a criminal offense.
  - mywittyname 5y ago
    Because there are laws prohibiting exactly what he did. It's really that simple. There are laws against doing a thing, he did the thing and got caught. Go to jail, do not cross Go, give back the $500,000.
    - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
      >Because there are laws prohibiting exactly what he did. It's really that simple. Ok, but that's just an appeal to authority, what's the moral grounding for those laws? Of course lying and being deceitful for personal gain is wrong but why is it a criminal matter when an individual does it but a civil matter when a group does it?
      - riku_iki 5y ago
        > but a civil matter when a group does it? Group also has decision makers who can be criminally prosecuted in case of some fraud committed.
  - burntoutfire 5y ago
    Some highly unethical and socially destructive behaviors are covered by the criminal law as an extra deterrent (aside from the usual civil case). Crooks in positions of high power (even in the private sector) are very destructive for the society, so it makes sense to criminally punish bribery.
bm1362 5y ago
I believe that white collar crime deserves the harshest punishment of all. It’s committed by intelligent people, premeditated and generally abuses a position of trust.
sk5t 5y ago
So all non-violent offenses are non-criminal offenses in your book? Steal a car, burglarize a vacant residence, defraud a company, these are matters to sort out via civil action?

lainga 5y ago

To encourage the others, maybe?

riku_iki 5y ago

> This guy has not raped anyone, assaulted anyone.. In my mind his crime is much more severe than shoplifting or paying by fake banknotes. > why do we taxpayers need to pay Both, Netflix as a company, and its shareholders are also tax payers, and can expect to be protected from fraud/crimes using taxpayers money.

caffeine 5y ago
I guess I don't understand why it's a crime and not just a breach of contract. Imagine if rather than an employee this was a consulting firm that had done the exact same thing (taken payments for signing Netflix up to unnecessary contracts). Nobody would be going to jail, they would just sue the consultancy, which might go out of business.
- riku_iki 5y ago
  I don't have details in my hands, only pure speculations, but it is likely possible to check on which counts this case has been classified as a criminal offense.
- mywittyname 5y ago
  Because there are laws prohibiting exactly what he did. It's really that simple. There are laws against doing a thing, he did the thing and got caught. Go to jail, do not cross Go, give back the $500,000.
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    >Because there are laws prohibiting exactly what he did. It's really that simple. Ok, but that's just an appeal to authority, what's the moral grounding for those laws? Of course lying and being deceitful for personal gain is wrong but why is it a criminal matter when an individual does it but a civil matter when a group does it?
    - riku_iki 5y ago
      > but a civil matter when a group does it? Group also has decision makers who can be criminally prosecuted in case of some fraud committed.
- burntoutfire 5y ago
  Some highly unethical and socially destructive behaviors are covered by the criminal law as an extra deterrent (aside from the usual civil case). Crooks in positions of high power (even in the private sector) are very destructive for the society, so it makes sense to criminally punish bribery.

bm1362 5y ago

I believe that white collar crime deserves the harshest punishment of all. It’s committed by intelligent people, premeditated and generally abuses a position of trust.

sk5t 5y ago

So all non-violent offenses are non-criminal offenses in your book? Steal a car, burglarize a vacant residence, defraud a company, these are matters to sort out via civil action?