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Tesla is the last car I would try to steal. It can be rometely shut down? It can be found via gps information? Wealthy owners can afford Lowjack. (I actuall

Tesla is the last car I would try to steal. It can be rometely shut down? It can be found via gps information? Wealthy owners can afford Lowjack. (I actually don't know, and to lazy to research. Just going off stuff I've heard here.) If I had a big enough faraday cage, a flat bed, and winch; it might be an appealing target though? Oh yea, a lot of motorcycles are stollen by two guys lifting the bike onto a pickup--locks, and all.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
You document and report a vulnerability to Walmart, Northrop, some random BigCo that nobody thinks much about and you get nothing. You document and report an equivalent vulnerability to a tech BigCo and you make the front page of HN. It's not about having a working exploit you can monetize. These hackers aren't gonna steal cars. They're showcasing their skills and picking their targets for that purpose. Had they hacked a Daweoo wearing Chevy clothes or an FCA product nobody would blink twice. The comments would all be people saying you get what you pay for or repeating the typical Reddit tropes about the big3 being crap. They picked one of the brands that starts with T, ends with A because those brands are sacred cows of the upper middle class and have rabid online fan-bases who will greatly amplify and publicize these hackers work.
- justapassenger 5y ago
  > Had they hacked a Daweoo wearing Chevy clothes or an FCA product nobody would blink twice Jeep hack (part of FCA, that doesn’t exist anymore BTW - it’s Stellantis now) was a huge huge thing. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33650491 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33650491
tyingq 5y ago
There's usually maintenance or "enthusiast" info available that makes it not that complex to defeat. Here's 2 antennas in a Model S mirror: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/img_0748-jpg.21196/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/img_0748-jpg.211...
dawnerd 5y ago
Instead criminals just steal mirrors. They go for decent money and are trivial to pop off while walking down the street.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

You document and report a vulnerability to Walmart, Northrop, some random BigCo that nobody thinks much about and you get nothing. You document and report an equivalent vulnerability to a tech BigCo and you make the front page of HN. It's not about having a working exploit you can monetize. These hackers aren't gonna steal cars. They're showcasing their skills and picking their targets for that purpose. Had they hacked a Daweoo wearing Chevy clothes or an FCA product nobody would blink twice. The comments would all be people saying you get what you pay for or repeating the typical Reddit tropes about the big3 being crap. They picked one of the brands that starts with T, ends with A because those brands are sacred cows of the upper middle class and have rabid online fan-bases who will greatly amplify and publicize these hackers work.

justapassenger 5y ago
> Had they hacked a Daweoo wearing Chevy clothes or an FCA product nobody would blink twice Jeep hack (part of FCA, that doesn’t exist anymore BTW - it’s Stellantis now) was a huge huge thing. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33650491 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33650491

tyingq 5y ago

There's usually maintenance or "enthusiast" info available that makes it not that complex to defeat. Here's 2 antennas in a Model S mirror: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/img_0748-jpg.21196/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/img_0748-jpg.211...

dawnerd 5y ago

Instead criminals just steal mirrors. They go for decent money and are trivial to pop off while walking down the street.