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Carolyn S. Miles CEO and President of Save the Children Fund, received $560,749 in FYE 12/2019 (January 1-December 31, 2019), while there are a lot of children

Carolyn S. Miles CEO and President of Save the Children Fund, received $560,749 in FYE 12/2019 (January 1-December 31, 2019), while there are a lot of children dying from hunger all around the world!

GordonS 5y ago
I don't mean to defend it, but I would have guessed it would be 4x higher than that. What would be a reasonable salary for the Save the Children CEO, in your view?
- abbassi 5y ago
  ZERO! We do a lot of services with thousands of volunteers and a big network of places, journals, leaflets (just in our own city we distributed more than two million leaflets in the last year) and find thousands of new volunteers and nobody, receives nothing. We don't accept any donations from governments, municipality, companies, etc. but only from single individuals (normally €2, €5 or foods in supermarkets) and we believe this is the only authentic way of doing voluntary activity.
  - rimliu 5y ago
    How do you imagine a person should survive with a full-time job and ZERO salary? Do you volunteer 5/7 9-5?
    - abbassi 5y ago
      I DO NOT IMAGINE, but WE DO this activity, with a network of volunteers who do the activity after the office hours, weekends and for some of us who has no job at the moment (students or people still looking for a job). We pay part of our salary to fund our activities, we go door-by-door and distribute our journal and fliers and ask people to support us with €2, €5 or more. We found hundreds of supporters, and we started right after the pandemic started. You can also do these kind of activity, we opened other offices in London, Paris, Milan, Barcelona, and now we are going to open another one in Berlin in the coming months. These is a real alternative to charities funded by government and bankers, warmongers, etc.
    - abbassi 5y ago
      May I ask how much do you receive as your 5/7 9-5 job's salary? €560,000 a year?
yokaze 5y ago
And what should I do with those two facts? You are also receiving a salary while a lot of children are dying... Working for a charity is proper work and deserves correct renumeration as any other work. The insinuation seems to be, that it isn't justified, but just from those facts alone, I am failing to see you making a good case of it. The link provided gives the org a very good rating. Not saying that it is the case with the CEO & President of Save the Children Fund: Personally, I know people employed by charities and find that they are exploited for their ideals: Working long hours and receiving low payments and other benefits.
- abbassi 5y ago
  Let me please disagree with you! We are against any type of charity and at the same time we do voluntary activity (like helping elderly, disabled, families in financial trouble, students, etc.) but we do it as a voluntary activity and receive nothing (all of us donates as much as possible) and we work for some company and receive salary, but we do the activity after the job hours, weekends or some of our friends are students or jobless at the time being. So I agree that charities exploit people and for the exact reason we are against it, and we do our independent (from all governments and companies) activity and invites others to do so.
  - yokaze 5y ago
    > We are against any type of charity and at the same time we do voluntary activity I am getting more confused. Who is "we"? [Edit]: Sorry for being dense, you are a volunteer for Save the Children? If so, I can better empathise with your position. > So I agree that charities exploit people and for the exact reason we are against it, and we do our independent (from all governments and companies) activity and invites others to do so. If you want your donations are handled by people doing it essentially as a hobby, that is fine. Give the donations to those entities then. Personally, I think the work done by charities deserves professional attention. The work can be quite complicated, and a lot of well meaning things have been done, which did more harm than good. I do not think, working for charities has to be exploitative, just because people are getting paid. I say, the expectation of a personal commitment beyond a professional one from people working for charities does. The CEO and president, as well as a secretary or a PR person of a charity should be renumerated the same way as one working for a "normal" company. Their work should not be worth less.

Carolyn S. Miles CEO and President of Save the Children Fund, received $560,749 in FYE 12/2019 (January 1-December 31, 2019), while there are a lot of children dying from hunger all around the world!

GordonS 5y ago

I don't mean to defend it, but I would have guessed it would be 4x higher than that. What would be a reasonable salary for the Save the Children CEO, in your view?

abbassi 5y ago
ZERO! We do a lot of services with thousands of volunteers and a big network of places, journals, leaflets (just in our own city we distributed more than two million leaflets in the last year) and find thousands of new volunteers and nobody, receives nothing. We don't accept any donations from governments, municipality, companies, etc. but only from single individuals (normally €2, €5 or foods in supermarkets) and we believe this is the only authentic way of doing voluntary activity.
- rimliu 5y ago
  How do you imagine a person should survive with a full-time job and ZERO salary? Do you volunteer 5/7 9-5?
  - abbassi 5y ago
    I DO NOT IMAGINE, but WE DO this activity, with a network of volunteers who do the activity after the office hours, weekends and for some of us who has no job at the moment (students or people still looking for a job). We pay part of our salary to fund our activities, we go door-by-door and distribute our journal and fliers and ask people to support us with €2, €5 or more. We found hundreds of supporters, and we started right after the pandemic started. You can also do these kind of activity, we opened other offices in London, Paris, Milan, Barcelona, and now we are going to open another one in Berlin in the coming months. These is a real alternative to charities funded by government and bankers, warmongers, etc.
  - abbassi 5y ago
    May I ask how much do you receive as your 5/7 9-5 job's salary? €560,000 a year?

yokaze 5y ago

And what should I do with those two facts? You are also receiving a salary while a lot of children are dying... Working for a charity is proper work and deserves correct renumeration as any other work. The insinuation seems to be, that it isn't justified, but just from those facts alone, I am failing to see you making a good case of it. The link provided gives the org a very good rating. Not saying that it is the case with the CEO & President of Save the Children Fund: Personally, I know people employed by charities and find that they are exploited for their ideals: Working long hours and receiving low payments and other benefits.

abbassi 5y ago
Let me please disagree with you! We are against any type of charity and at the same time we do voluntary activity (like helping elderly, disabled, families in financial trouble, students, etc.) but we do it as a voluntary activity and receive nothing (all of us donates as much as possible) and we work for some company and receive salary, but we do the activity after the job hours, weekends or some of our friends are students or jobless at the time being. So I agree that charities exploit people and for the exact reason we are against it, and we do our independent (from all governments and companies) activity and invites others to do so.
- yokaze 5y ago
  > We are against any type of charity and at the same time we do voluntary activity I am getting more confused. Who is "we"? [Edit]: Sorry for being dense, you are a volunteer for Save the Children? If so, I can better empathise with your position. > So I agree that charities exploit people and for the exact reason we are against it, and we do our independent (from all governments and companies) activity and invites others to do so. If you want your donations are handled by people doing it essentially as a hobby, that is fine. Give the donations to those entities then. Personally, I think the work done by charities deserves professional attention. The work can be quite complicated, and a lot of well meaning things have been done, which did more harm than good. I do not think, working for charities has to be exploitative, just because people are getting paid. I say, the expectation of a personal commitment beyond a professional one from people working for charities does. The CEO and president, as well as a secretary or a PR person of a charity should be renumerated the same way as one working for a "normal" company. Their work should not be worth less.