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Quirksmode is seeking to raise € 2,500 in donations
- rb2k_ 15y agoI wish more sites would have a flattr (flattr.com) account. I'd easily "subscribe" to quirksmode, but I really don't want to manually send money to every single site I like.
- CWIZO 15y agoI've gladly donated a small amount (as much as I can afford), I can't count how many times PKK saved me from some stupid bugs in some stupid browser.
- giladvdn 15y agoYup I donated too. Quirksmode is a very useful site and I'd hate to see it stop.
- nirvdrum 15y agoHere's hoping he reaches his total. I just donated a good chunk on behalf of Mogotest. I wish I could pick up the whole thing, but we're still an early-stage bootstrapped company. Regardless, I think it's important to support the ecosystem. This is our second donation to community resources (the other was to http://firebreath.org/ http://firebreath.org/). I wish more companies would step up and help out in general.
- ignifero 15y agoI dont understand the rationale of not wanting ads on the site?
- mrspeaker 15y agoAdvertising makes things shitter. The Louvre could probably replace the frame of the Mona Lisa with some rotating ads, but it would detract from the content. It cheapens it. PPK has spent years building his reputation through Quirksmode - heck, he's one of my most respected sources because I know he has a great sense of pride in his work. HN people rely for a lot of their income through ads I know, but it doesn't change the feeling (I changed that work from "fact"!) that it detracts from the content. Thanks for your awesome work PPK, I'm donating now!
- ignifero 15y agoWould you be willing to pay an annual subscription for his online "museum" then? Donations are fine, but, to me it is a method that also cheapens the said content. It's a way to say "i believe in my content, but not enough to set a price for it, and asking for donations makes me look like a nice guy (and are untaxable)". </rant>
- speckledjim 15y ago"Advertising makes things shitter." In your opinion, which is a minority viewpoint.
- nodata 15y agoThis is an opinion too. What's your source?
- speckledjim 15y agoThe majority of people find advertising useful. They buy stuff based on advertising. If they didn't advertisers wouldn't spend advertising money. Advertising works, providing a service both to the advertiser and the consumer. I know that's an incredibly unpopular viewpoint within this bubble, but there you go. If it was the case that most people found advertising 'shit', then you'd see more and more people installing adblock etc. But that hasn't happened. It's still used by a very small minority of users as it has always been. It's sort of like the Opera web browser in that respect.
- Rauchg 15y agoI take it Google is not sponsoring the compatibility tables anymore, but I didn't see a mention of it in this post. http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/04/google_sponsors.html http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/04/google_spons...
- 5h 15y ago"Therefore, if you go to the compatibility tables now, you’ll see a tasteful little sponsor bar at the bottom of every page with a well-known logo in it." I can't see these any more so I think it fair to assume they don't.
- jasondavies 15y agoThere is also http://caniuse.com/ http://caniuse.com/ for compatibility tables, although I'm not sure how different they are. Quirksmode seems more detailed. Caniuse.com has an unobtrusive ad at the bottom as well as a Flattr link.
- masklinn 15y agoCaniuse mostly covers futures stuff, Quirksmode's table cover everything, provide detailed reports on partial compatibility and check extensively for specious behavior at boundaries.
- ck2 15y agohttp://help.dottoro.com/ http://help.dottoro.com/ is useful too though has no usable search feature (relying on Google is not enough).
- VoxPelli 15y agoCanIUse builds on top of data from eg. QuirksMode and gathers it in an easily scannable and filterable table.
- rmc 15y agoI recently discovered CanIUse.com for the HTML5/CSS3 stuff. In some ways they aren't as detailed as I'd like. I wanted to see what browsers support <input type=number>, which Chrom(e|ium) supports, but FF5 doesn't. However they lump all Form Elements into one category, and tell me that FF has partial support. It would be nicer if they told me how partial, partial was!
- bobfunk 15y agoWas an easy choice to donate a bit, quirksmode is such a good resource for cross-browser css and javascript issues.
- stefs 15y agoa weekly rate of € 5000? sorry, but seeing that i earn about a quarter of that per month i'm not sure ... i mean, with a weekly rate of 5k i'd work the whole of january (and maybe feb if i'm feeling greedy) and take the rest of the year off.
- masklinn 15y agoYou're not PPK though, I think. Also, it's a weekly rate for his consulting business, not personal income.
- roel_v 15y agoThat's because you don't have a clue about running a business. What you get as an employee is not what it costs to employ you, and that's not what it costs to do it from your own company. I'd rather have him not give a discount. Why not let people pay for what they use? How did we get to a state where everybody expects everything to be handed to them for free?
- masklinn 15y ago> I'd rather have him not give a discount. Why not let people pay for what they use? How did we get to a state where everybody expects everything to be handed to them for free? Erm... you may want to note that this is a resource which has always been free and a major contribution to PPK's fame, which in turn is why he can quote rates of 5k€/week.
- roel_v 15y agoSure, but that's no reason for him to update stale content he has no use for for free. Of course the site is a loss leader for the guy's consulting services.
- masklinn 15y ago> Sure, but that's no reason for him to update stale content he has no use for for free. Which is not what he's doing. Or did you manage to miss the 2500€ rate? He's just providing a reduced rate for history's sake.
- ryan-allen 15y agoI've been using resources provided by Quirksmode since... maybe 2002. A long time. It's been exceptionally useful. Donated.
- mahmud 15y agowill cut them a check tomorrow morning. also, debian, eclipse, gnu and apache. it is tax time here is australia :-)
- STHayden 15y agodonated. easy choice. I uses quirksmode often.
- bgarbiak 15y ago"Donation drive succeeded. After 4.5 hours. Wow... am not sure what to say next." https://twitter.com/#!/ppk/status/85703744460824576 https://twitter.com/#!/ppk/status/85703744460824576 Great job, Internet!
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- blendergasket 15y agoDonated. This site has been such a godsend for so long. I'm really glad it exists.
- jonursenbach 15y agoI'm kind of surprised that at this point this kind of data isn't in some sort of git repository that people can send pull requests when data needs to be changed.