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> Signal planned this as a PR stun I would say both Signal + Facebook. I only use iMessage. In Apple I trust =)
by maram 5y ago
> Signal planned this as a PR stun
I would say both Signal + Facebook. I only use iMessage.
In Apple I trust =)
- NoPicklez 5y agoYou only use iMessage up until the point you need to SMS a device that isn't an Apple device. Then its not in Apple's ecosystem anymore.
- mosselman 5y agoHow do you know that they aren’t using iMessage to only send iMessages?
- NoPicklez 5y agoI don't but my point still stands, Signal and Messenger are software agnostic (to a degree). There is every possibility that when I send a person an SMS, it will fall outside of the iMessage ecosystem. If I send someone a message on Signal or Messenger, it will only come through to them via that platform. With iMessage you cannot guarantee that.
- caf 5y agoI've been using Signal as an SMS app replacement since it was called TextSecure, and it still works that way - if you send to a non-Signal-registered number, it sends over ordinary SMS (with a visual indicator to let you know), very similar to the way iMessage works.
- NoPicklez 5y agoDifference being that Apple doesn't have a visual indicator before you send the message to let you know you're sending it to a non-iMessage device. Edit: I was completely wrong, iMessage does do that, my apologies.
- pfranz 5y agoI haven't paid too much attention, but that hasn't been my experience. As recently as today when I type in a new number the text in the window defaults to green (a text message), after a brief lag it turns to blue when it validates it as an iMessage account. This all happens before you enter any text in the body.
- fedorareis 5y agoSure it does. Apple shows the phone number/contact name and the send arrow in green if it is being sent to a non-iMessage recipient.
- alpaca128 5y agoI mean it's similar with Signal: you can send Signal messages until someone in your contacts (which are most) doesn't use Signal so you have to send an SMS. The problem is that Signal prefers to also set itself up as the default SMS app and doesn't clearly show which messages in the feed are what kind. As someone who has to explain this difference to his father about twice a month I don't like this "feature", it's utterly confusing to people who don't know or don't care about the distinction between web-based messaging, SMS and MMS(now defunct here) when they want to send a picture.
- drcongo 5y agoI don't understand this, so I'm guessing this is a "feature" of Android... but Signal _mixes_ SMS messages and Signal messages inside the Signal app, and doesn't visually differentiate?
- alpaca128 5y agoOne of the fundamental differences between iOS and Android is that on Android you can replace most preinstalled apps with a third-party app for the same purpose. You can use third-party camera apps, keyboards(iOS too for some time), messaging(SMS) apps, web browser engines, ... Signal requests the status as default messaging app, which imho is a problem when combined with inexperienced users who tend to just click "OK" to get rid of popups and error messages, and now don't understand why they can't send a picture to someone in their contact list. And yes, Signal just lists everything in the same interface. For non-technical users this can lead to a lot of unexpected behaviour.
- drcongo 5y agoThanks for the explainer. I think I now see why so many Android users are so totally wedded to WhatsApp.
- developer93 5y agoHowever, you don't have to make it the default. I have separate SMS and signal apps, it's not hard to set up.
- ganafagol 5y agoThe Signal target group is people who value privacy. You appear to not be in that group.
- diveanon 5y agoI've never understood corporate tribalism.