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Of course "reverse racism" exists (although, it certainly may be much less of a problem in the USA than non "reverse" racism). Discriminating against someone be

Of course "reverse racism" exists (although, it certainly may be much less of a problem in the USA than non "reverse" racism). Discriminating against someone because of their race because you believe their racial group or background is privileged is still racism and the application of a stereotype. Just because they're White, Hispanic, or Asian (depending on the type of "reverse racism" we're talking about here) shouldn't give you an excuse to be racist against them. Edit: and also it would be illegal if the company is foolish enough to put it in writing and clearly state they are discriminating against people of a specific ethnic or national background, regardless of what background it is or if you personally believe that background is privileged. Fair enough to say that speaking this out on a company zoom call in a lot of places would get you in trouble though and speaks to a lack of understanding of tech workplaces - it's only smart self-preservation to stay far away from politics, especially racial politics, in company workspaces unless you're sure you're 100% aligned with the currently dominant creed.

dools 5y ago
"The currently dominant creed" would be ... urr ... white christians.
- javagram 5y ago
  Not in my experience in the workplace. Your mileage may vary, but I’ve never been preached to about Christianity in my work experience. Meanwhile there are usually plenty of meetings and group emails about stuff like diversity, people openly express their support of Democratic politicians or hate toward republican politicians, etc. If someone at my work stated in a meeting they don’t believe in Christianity I would never expect them to be fired, if they stated that about DEI or even disagreeing with a specific DEI strategy or tactic of the company, i’d expect trouble. If someone has a dissenting opinion there they need to keep quiet for their own good, as this guy at basecamp learned.
  - dools 5y ago
    One thing to note is technology companies are far more progressive than almost all other companies! Your workplaces are the exception right now. Also it’s a false equivalence to compare not believing in Christianity and discouraging diversity and inclusion programs. It’s the same mistake people make in comparing the protective use of force with the oppressive use of force, or comparing being racist with calling out racism. If Christians were in the minority, and were disadvantaged as a result, and there was a program to promote a higher level of Christian employment, and you said “I don’t think Christianity is even a religion why do we have this stupid program” then you might find you get the same sort of response as claiming there’s no white privilege now.
    - javagram 5y ago
      Yes I agree and that’s why in my post I said “speaks to a lack of understanding of tech workplaces” right before my statement about dominant creeds. I was not talking about construction sites or other non-tech workplaces. You were the one who brought up Christianity, but I don’t think you’re really in disagreement with what I said. Perhaps it’s simply the term “creed” that’s at issue here, and substitute it for another one in that case. You go on to present a hypothetical example of management attempting to specifically hire Christians rather than members of other religions, if that actually openly happened we both know there would be a hue and cry and an EEOC or HR investigation. It’s not representative of what tech workplaces look like today.

dools 5y ago

"The currently dominant creed" would be ... urr ... white christians.

javagram 5y ago
Not in my experience in the workplace. Your mileage may vary, but I’ve never been preached to about Christianity in my work experience. Meanwhile there are usually plenty of meetings and group emails about stuff like diversity, people openly express their support of Democratic politicians or hate toward republican politicians, etc. If someone at my work stated in a meeting they don’t believe in Christianity I would never expect them to be fired, if they stated that about DEI or even disagreeing with a specific DEI strategy or tactic of the company, i’d expect trouble. If someone has a dissenting opinion there they need to keep quiet for their own good, as this guy at basecamp learned.
- dools 5y ago
  One thing to note is technology companies are far more progressive than almost all other companies! Your workplaces are the exception right now. Also it’s a false equivalence to compare not believing in Christianity and discouraging diversity and inclusion programs. It’s the same mistake people make in comparing the protective use of force with the oppressive use of force, or comparing being racist with calling out racism. If Christians were in the minority, and were disadvantaged as a result, and there was a program to promote a higher level of Christian employment, and you said “I don’t think Christianity is even a religion why do we have this stupid program” then you might find you get the same sort of response as claiming there’s no white privilege now.
  - javagram 5y ago
    Yes I agree and that’s why in my post I said “speaks to a lack of understanding of tech workplaces” right before my statement about dominant creeds. I was not talking about construction sites or other non-tech workplaces. You were the one who brought up Christianity, but I don’t think you’re really in disagreement with what I said. Perhaps it’s simply the term “creed” that’s at issue here, and substitute it for another one in that case. You go on to present a hypothetical example of management attempting to specifically hire Christians rather than members of other religions, if that actually openly happened we both know there would be a hue and cry and an EEOC or HR investigation. It’s not representative of what tech workplaces look like today.