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We have begun notifying our subscribers and advising them to change their Sosasta passwords as soon as possible. We will keep our Indian subscribers fully infor

We have begun notifying our subscribers and advising them to change their Sosasta passwords as soon as possible. We will keep our Indian subscribers fully informed as we learn more. This is a lie. Neither I nor my brother have heard from them. Keep in mind that this happened on Friday and it's already Tuesday here. In the meantime, I have been spammed about deals that I don't care about through e-mail and text messages four times.

nodata 15y ago
How is that spam? You opted-in to receive the e-mails.
- sunchild 15y ago
  Not if those emails are from spammers harvesting the Groupon DB that is now available on Google.
  - nodata 15y ago
    He said he was spammed about deals.
    - jterce 15y ago
      Most spam offers deals.
- cbr 15y ago
  He's counting deals he doesn't care about as spam.
  - VMG 15y ago
    Unless telepathy is invented all subscription email can be spam then.
Garbage 15y ago
Though I am not a subscriber, I have received information from some of my friends that they are getting these warning emails.
rkalla 15y ago
I suppose we also have no verification that the passwords are no longer stored in plain text either, so changing it seems to be postponing the inevitable -- it is now a target for getting hacked again, with a delicious plain text payload as the reward for anyone doing it. If my doctor was leaking my medical records left and right to advertisers around town, I would sue him... at some point leaking my online identity has to have some sort of repercussions behind it besides me getting online and being openly angry on the internet. Yep, that'll do it ;) ADDENDUM. Speak of the devil (another HN story): http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/06/cloud-site-dropbox-drops-the-ball.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/06/cloud-site-dro...
- nickolai 15y ago
  > If my doctor was leaking my medical records left and right to advertisers around town, I would sue him... at some point leaking my online identity has to have some sort of repercussions behind it besides me getting online and being openly angry on the internet. What would you do ? sue them? The EULA you have accepted usually forbids it, or limits the amount of damages you can claim to a few bucks. I am not a lawyer, but i doubt such an EULA would be declared void in court.
  - pavel_lishin 15y ago
    Somehow, I think this wouldn't be the case. Otherwise, doctors would be throwing EULA agreements left and right, and saving millions on malpractice insurance fees.
    - sunir 15y ago
      They do. They are called waivers. You sign them all the time when using the health care system.
      - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
        I've never seen a complete waiver of rights. What you typically sign is an agreement to try arbitration before (or instead of) suing in the courts. I don't believe it is possible to waive the ability to be penalized for negligence, just the venue the penalty is assessed in. Of course, said arbiter is much less likely to give out a seven digit award than a jury is.
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benswieskowski 15y ago
Groupon takes security and privacy very seriously. Just not seriously enough to encrypt passwords.

nodata 15y ago

How is that spam? You opted-in to receive the e-mails.

sunchild 15y ago
Not if those emails are from spammers harvesting the Groupon DB that is now available on Google.
- nodata 15y ago
  He said he was spammed about deals.
  - jterce 15y ago
    Most spam offers deals.
cbr 15y ago
He's counting deals he doesn't care about as spam.
- VMG 15y ago
  Unless telepathy is invented all subscription email can be spam then.

Garbage 15y ago

Though I am not a subscriber, I have received information from some of my friends that they are getting these warning emails.

rkalla 15y ago

I suppose we also have no verification that the passwords are no longer stored in plain text either, so changing it seems to be postponing the inevitable -- it is now a target for getting hacked again, with a delicious plain text payload as the reward for anyone doing it. If my doctor was leaking my medical records left and right to advertisers around town, I would sue him... at some point leaking my online identity has to have some sort of repercussions behind it besides me getting online and being openly angry on the internet. Yep, that'll do it ;) ADDENDUM. Speak of the devil (another HN story): http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/06/cloud-site-dropbox-drops-the-ball.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/06/cloud-site-dro...

nickolai 15y ago
> If my doctor was leaking my medical records left and right to advertisers around town, I would sue him... at some point leaking my online identity has to have some sort of repercussions behind it besides me getting online and being openly angry on the internet. What would you do ? sue them? The EULA you have accepted usually forbids it, or limits the amount of damages you can claim to a few bucks. I am not a lawyer, but i doubt such an EULA would be declared void in court.
- pavel_lishin 15y ago
  Somehow, I think this wouldn't be the case. Otherwise, doctors would be throwing EULA agreements left and right, and saving millions on malpractice insurance fees.
  - sunir 15y ago
    They do. They are called waivers. You sign them all the time when using the health care system.
    - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
      I've never seen a complete waiver of rights. What you typically sign is an agreement to try arbitration before (or instead of) suing in the courts. I don't believe it is possible to waive the ability to be penalized for negligence, just the venue the penalty is assessed in. Of course, said arbiter is much less likely to give out a seven digit award than a jury is.

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benswieskowski 15y ago

Groupon takes security and privacy very seriously. Just not seriously enough to encrypt passwords.