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Widely and freely available HD porn too. It’s easier than ever for people to use it as a substitute, and it reduces the drive to seduce. It contributes to a dow

by krrrh 5y ago

Widely and freely available HD porn too. It’s easier than ever for people to use it as a substitute, and it reduces the drive to seduce. It contributes to a downward spiral of satisficing. Edit: Getting downvotes from folks in denial. I’m not making this stuff up, college students rarely used to have ED, now porn-induced ED is quite common. Many such cases! [0] [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
I thought porn was supposed to make people into sexual deviants, which is it?
- proxyon 5y ago
  It reduces the novelty of real sex and thus the arousal for it. Lots of studies on this.
- jjeaff 5y ago
  A common side effect of porn addiction is that the addict requires more and more extreme situations and stimulus in order to get aroused. So I would say that is sort of turning one into a sexual deviant.
  - WalnutBoat 5y ago
    Would love to see any sort of actual studies on this, because I'm fairly confident it's false. The argument at face value is a slippery slope, like "sugar triggers dopamine response in the brain in similar areas as cocaine, so any exposure to sugar eventually leads to someone consuming sugar at all times" I think it's much more likely that people, in general, imprint sexual preferences around the time that they are becoming sexual in their teens, and that doesn't change much as they age. Religion in the US tends to focus on "any exposure to porn makes you an addict," which is why I am assuming this is what you're trying to imply. If you want to play a semantics game "porn addiction is defined as" then I'd argue that the same people are -true- porn addicts at the same rate that people are -true- sugar addicts. So, not saying they don't exist, but are a significantly lower number of the population than US religions would have you believe.
  - Shorel 5y ago
    Your opinion seems to come from the same school of thought that claimed cannabis consumption would surely lead to harder and harder drugs. In fact, I have experienced the opposite: I do not enjoy any kind of "ugly", much less "extreme" porn. It turns me off. The simplest kind for me, missionary position, or a girl alone, and that's it.
throwaway1492 5y ago
I have a dead post in this thread for basically the same thing, very odd reaction I don't understand.
monort 5y ago
From review you linked. Clearly this means research is conflicted on this topic. Viewing Sexual Stimuli Associated with Greater Sexual Responsiveness, Not Erectile Dysfunction https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26185674 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26185674 Is Pornography Use Associated with Sexual Difficulties and Dysfunctions among Younger Heterosexual Men https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25816904/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25816904/
Viliam1234 5y ago
> it reduces the drive to seduce Are you suggesting that the solution to dead bedrooms is increasing "drive to seduce" of the ones who complain? I thought that many of them already have high drive that their partners don't reciprocate.

by krrrh 5y ago

ClumsyPilot 5y ago

I thought porn was supposed to make people into sexual deviants, which is it?

proxyon 5y ago
It reduces the novelty of real sex and thus the arousal for it. Lots of studies on this.
jjeaff 5y ago
A common side effect of porn addiction is that the addict requires more and more extreme situations and stimulus in order to get aroused. So I would say that is sort of turning one into a sexual deviant.
- WalnutBoat 5y ago
  Would love to see any sort of actual studies on this, because I'm fairly confident it's false. The argument at face value is a slippery slope, like "sugar triggers dopamine response in the brain in similar areas as cocaine, so any exposure to sugar eventually leads to someone consuming sugar at all times" I think it's much more likely that people, in general, imprint sexual preferences around the time that they are becoming sexual in their teens, and that doesn't change much as they age. Religion in the US tends to focus on "any exposure to porn makes you an addict," which is why I am assuming this is what you're trying to imply. If you want to play a semantics game "porn addiction is defined as" then I'd argue that the same people are -true- porn addicts at the same rate that people are -true- sugar addicts. So, not saying they don't exist, but are a significantly lower number of the population than US religions would have you believe.
- Shorel 5y ago
  Your opinion seems to come from the same school of thought that claimed cannabis consumption would surely lead to harder and harder drugs. In fact, I have experienced the opposite: I do not enjoy any kind of "ugly", much less "extreme" porn. It turns me off. The simplest kind for me, missionary position, or a girl alone, and that's it.

throwaway1492 5y ago

I have a dead post in this thread for basically the same thing, very odd reaction I don't understand.

monort 5y ago

From review you linked. Clearly this means research is conflicted on this topic. Viewing Sexual Stimuli Associated with Greater Sexual Responsiveness, Not Erectile Dysfunction https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26185674 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26185674 Is Pornography Use Associated with Sexual Difficulties and Dysfunctions among Younger Heterosexual Men https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25816904/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25816904/

Viliam1234 5y ago

> it reduces the drive to seduce Are you suggesting that the solution to dead bedrooms is increasing "drive to seduce" of the ones who complain? I thought that many of them already have high drive that their partners don't reciprocate.