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And then there is me who has no idea about ads. NoScript, PiHole and uBlock Origin tend to do that so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

philshem 6y ago
That doesn’t mean that you aren’t being micro-targeted by ads. It just means you don’t see to whom your personal information is being sold.
- unnouinceput 5y ago
  Considering that: 1 - using this setup means considerably less info is exiting my systems to feed the beast and 2 - exactly because I don't see them they're wasting their time on me I'd say mission accomplished. Wanna guess in how many months the current state of ads/ad R&D would drop to 0 if everyone would do the same like me? Here is a funny story, from this year. crackwatch dot com (the site, not the reddit) went down. why? because pirates that flocked there with thousands, all had this setup and they got exactly zero ad revenue from their users. Of course they went with a nice corporate BS "we could use more aggressive ads to raise revenue for servers but we respect you guys too much for something like that bla bla..." - translation: we know is not going to work so we just going to cut our losses.
  - TchoBeer 5y ago
    So you acknowledge that if everyone acted like you, it would destroy most of the sites we use every day?
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    I’m going to echo the sibling commenter. You somehow tried to negate my hypothetical App Store pirates by saying it’s a different situation without commenting on actual substance. Now you’re admitting your set up is awful for creators and would screw things up for genuine people if everyone did it. Just because whatever creator example may not be a good site or person doesn’t mean that’s how everyone is. I’m sure you wouldn’t want everyone taking whatever service or product your livelihood depends on.
skinnymuch 5y ago
I wonder how your post and posts like yours would be received if you said you have no idea about the purchase button or pricing of apps in app stores because you had ways to get around app and in app purchases. Probably not well. At least usually not well. Depends on the day and the audience of course.
- unnouinceput 5y ago
  Comparing apples and oranges. I doubt HN posts lately are full of purchase buttons / pricing of apps having a negative effect on the surveillance we're constantly under.
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    It is apples and oranges in that they are both fruits with many common traits while also being different. In the end, what difference does it make to the creator what your reasons are? You’re depriving the creator of money. My hypothetical Apple or Google App Store pirates could have a surveillance issue claim as well. Would that really change how angry many people would be with the behavior and the difference in response vs ad blocking?

That doesn’t mean that you aren’t being micro-targeted by ads. It just means you don’t see to whom your personal information is being sold.

unnouinceput 5y ago
Considering that: 1 - using this setup means considerably less info is exiting my systems to feed the beast and 2 - exactly because I don't see them they're wasting their time on me I'd say mission accomplished. Wanna guess in how many months the current state of ads/ad R&D would drop to 0 if everyone would do the same like me? Here is a funny story, from this year. crackwatch dot com (the site, not the reddit) went down. why? because pirates that flocked there with thousands, all had this setup and they got exactly zero ad revenue from their users. Of course they went with a nice corporate BS "we could use more aggressive ads to raise revenue for servers but we respect you guys too much for something like that bla bla..." - translation: we know is not going to work so we just going to cut our losses.
- TchoBeer 5y ago
  So you acknowledge that if everyone acted like you, it would destroy most of the sites we use every day?
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  I’m going to echo the sibling commenter. You somehow tried to negate my hypothetical App Store pirates by saying it’s a different situation without commenting on actual substance. Now you’re admitting your set up is awful for creators and would screw things up for genuine people if everyone did it. Just because whatever creator example may not be a good site or person doesn’t mean that’s how everyone is. I’m sure you wouldn’t want everyone taking whatever service or product your livelihood depends on.

skinnymuch 5y ago

I wonder how your post and posts like yours would be received if you said you have no idea about the purchase button or pricing of apps in app stores because you had ways to get around app and in app purchases. Probably not well. At least usually not well. Depends on the day and the audience of course.

unnouinceput 5y ago
Comparing apples and oranges. I doubt HN posts lately are full of purchase buttons / pricing of apps having a negative effect on the surveillance we're constantly under.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  It is apples and oranges in that they are both fruits with many common traits while also being different. In the end, what difference does it make to the creator what your reasons are? You’re depriving the creator of money. My hypothetical Apple or Google App Store pirates could have a surveillance issue claim as well. Would that really change how angry many people would be with the behavior and the difference in response vs ad blocking?