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I'm really worried for my teenage son. Dating was brutal when I was doing it 20 years ago, and as far as I can tell, it's gotten so, so much worse since. Mode

I'm really worried for my teenage son. Dating was brutal when I was doing it 20 years ago, and as far as I can tell, it's gotten so, so much worse since. Modern dating can't literally be "winner take all", but it sure looks like it's getting close.

standardUser 6y ago
I strongly disagree, but my evidence is all anecdotal. I'm not saying that literally every guy can find a partner, but I have seen all manner of men end up with perfectly lovely partners (and/or occasional sex partners). And when I say "all manner" I mean dumb guys, ugly guys, short guys, guys with terrible hygiene. The spectrum of men I have personally witnessed have success with women is vast and diverse and even kind of disgusting.
- skindoe 6y ago
  And how many men who are unbeknownst to you alone and completely struggling in the dating market have you seen but are conviently ignored for a couple flashy examples that stuck out in your mind?
- colmvp 6y ago
  As a short guy, I chuckled at being grouped with dumb guys, and guys with terrible hygiene lol You're not wrong though, both men and women love to make fun of a short guys.
  - amznthrowaway5 6y ago
    What if someone did the same thing to black women? It seems only some "standards" are acceptable.
  - KozmoNau7 6y ago
    My take on it has always been that you wouldn't want to date someone who picks on physical features like that anyway, it's a giant red flag for an overall shitty personality.
    - amznthrowaway5 6y ago
      Nearly everyone has physical dealbreakers, and height is a very socially acceptable one that the vast majority of women have. Most women also filter on somewhat less politically correct factors like race. The total hypocrisy when it comes to this topic is considered acceptable since women control the market.
KozmoNau7 6y ago
The solution is to stop dating for dating's sake, and just get out there and socialize with people. At some point, you'll end up in conversation with someone really interesting and things can/will escalate from there. Get out of the "dating scene" and just do stuff with people.
kace91 6y ago
I don't think it's that bad. Being the chosen one is harder, but making connections is way easier. I am part of the generation that went through the change and saw both "systems", and I personally much prefer the current one - at least you never reach a dead end like you did when you depended on friends of friends to meet news people. It just requires you to be more proactive.

standardUser 6y ago

I strongly disagree, but my evidence is all anecdotal. I'm not saying that literally every guy can find a partner, but I have seen all manner of men end up with perfectly lovely partners (and/or occasional sex partners). And when I say "all manner" I mean dumb guys, ugly guys, short guys, guys with terrible hygiene. The spectrum of men I have personally witnessed have success with women is vast and diverse and even kind of disgusting.

skindoe 6y ago
And how many men who are unbeknownst to you alone and completely struggling in the dating market have you seen but are conviently ignored for a couple flashy examples that stuck out in your mind?
colmvp 6y ago
As a short guy, I chuckled at being grouped with dumb guys, and guys with terrible hygiene lol You're not wrong though, both men and women love to make fun of a short guys.
- amznthrowaway5 6y ago
  What if someone did the same thing to black women? It seems only some "standards" are acceptable.
- KozmoNau7 6y ago
  My take on it has always been that you wouldn't want to date someone who picks on physical features like that anyway, it's a giant red flag for an overall shitty personality.
  - amznthrowaway5 6y ago
    Nearly everyone has physical dealbreakers, and height is a very socially acceptable one that the vast majority of women have. Most women also filter on somewhat less politically correct factors like race. The total hypocrisy when it comes to this topic is considered acceptable since women control the market.

KozmoNau7 6y ago

The solution is to stop dating for dating's sake, and just get out there and socialize with people. At some point, you'll end up in conversation with someone really interesting and things can/will escalate from there. Get out of the "dating scene" and just do stuff with people.

kace91 6y ago

I don't think it's that bad. Being the chosen one is harder, but making connections is way easier. I am part of the generation that went through the change and saw both "systems", and I personally much prefer the current one - at least you never reach a dead end like you did when you depended on friends of friends to meet news people. It just requires you to be more proactive.