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Probably true, but good luck with that. As my grandfather said: "You might be right, but you don't want to be dead right." CBP already have extra authorities
by toss1 6y ago
Probably true, but good luck with that.
As my grandfather said: "You might be right, but you don't want to be dead right."
CBP already have extra authorities due to border control because crossing the border is not a constitutional right.
The most egregious expansion was the declaration that all territory within 100 miles of the border is 'authorized' for all CBP's nonsense. That happens to cover about 90% of the US population.
There is a lot of anguish about the intelligence agencies doing their jobs against very serious threats, including Nuclear, Biological, Chemical. Meanwhile the real damage to civil liberties is from the CBP and INS, who literally storm homes every day, and engage in this kind of 4th amendment trashing.
- mssundaram 6y agoI'm having trouble understanding how 100 miles from the border covers 90% of the US population? Edit: I see - I was thinking only in terms of e.g. the Arizona southern border, however looking up the Constitution Free Zone shows that it means the entire US - California, all states connected to Cananda etc. Eidt 2: Would this mean ALL of Hawaii is in this Constitution Free Zone?
- triceratops 6y agoDon't international airports count as "the border" too?
- heavyset_go 6y agoYes, they're considered "ports of entry".
- toss1 6y agoHawaii? yup, I'd expect that is a solid YES. I'm curious how much and how long it takes for this to drive migrants inland away from the border... and then how long it will take for them to make an excuse to make it 200mi...
- quickthrowman 6y agoIt is all of the US land, sea, and lake (Great Lakes) borders.
- heavyset_go 6y ago> Eidt 2: Would this mean ALL of Hawaii is in this Constitution Free Zone? And the entirety of a handful of states in the Northeast US, as well.
- rsync 6y ago" ... because crossing the border is not a constitutional right." Yes, it is. "In Nguyen v. INS (2001), on a separate matter of citizenship, the Supreme Court put down, in writing, that citizens of the US have the absolute right to enter its borders. It was in recent times more or less presumed to be the case, though historically there have been a wide range of decisions that did deny entry by citizens, mainly by denying the underlying citizenship. This right extends to lawful permanent residents, so long as they maintain their status."[1] [1] https://www.quora.com/Can-a-U-S-citizen-be-denied-entry-into-the-United-States https://www.quora.com/Can-a-U-S-citizen-be-denied-entry-into...
- toss1 6y agoGood point I should have said 'crossing the border without being searched is not a constitutional right' I can't cite chapter and verse, but I'm pretty sure that you do effectively consent to search in the act of crossing the border -- if you don't want to be searched for controlled or taxed items, you can choose to not cross the border, so...