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This kind of scaremongering isn't helping anyone. As others have pointed out, we're on track to flatten the curve when t comes to human population. Spreading s

by gspr 5y ago

This kind of scaremongering isn't helping anyone. As others have pointed out, we're on track to flatten the curve when t comes to human population. Spreading shit like "you are about to starve in a few decades" is dangerous, as it also gives the wrong idea of some very real resource concerns.

29athrowaway 5y ago
Someone has to do it. The real danger is preserving and defending the irrationality behind the status quo. While rational people care about the environment, irrational self-centered people celebrate Burning Man, travel around the world for conferences that could be done online and buy thousands of single use plastic items for Halloween only to throw them away the next day. Reduce, reuse, recycle. In that order. Take the environment into consideration when making decisions. Everyone knows what they have to do. Fucking do it. No more fucking unjustified air travel (is your family dying? no? then don't fucking travel), excessive packaging, single use plastics for non medical reasons, stupid events that can be done online, no more snail mail spam. No more bullshit. Did you travel to an exotic destination this year? I don't fucking care. I do care about the environment though. Send polluters to jail, ruin them economically, shame the fuck out of them. Your value as perceived by society should not be how much you pollute or help destroy the environment. Fuck marketing, fuck buying shit you do not need, fuck the narcissism and vanity. Live within fucking environmental budgets.
- sanedigital 5y ago
  Somewhat ironically, the consumption you decry here is what powers the economy that, in turn, funds advancements that make our living more sustainable.
  - 29athrowaway 5y ago
    What the fuck are you talking about? Are you aware that there were cultures here in the Americas that were able to preserve the environment intact for 10,000 years? Ironically, the new arrivals here claim that Native Americans were somehow unproductive and mismanaged their territory with inefficient farming practices. Well, those claims will not age very gracefully once all the aquifers are pumped dry and soil finally becomes sterile in a few decades. All of it, in about 500 years. Good job. None of the "advancements" you mention are actually necessary, or can actually be called advancements. For something to be called an advancement it would need to be better that what preceded it. How is precisely a global clusterfuck/extinction event better than what existed before? How can being decades away from total ecological collapse be better than living in a fucking paradise full of biodiversity in perfect ecological balance? The only advancement necessary to achieve sustainability is keeping your ego in check and have a reciprocal relationship with nature. Go to an Indian reservation and listen to the people who managed to survive here for 10,000 years without causing a cascading ecological disaster. Try to understand the philosophical differences between your culture and theirs, and understand which of those differences cause you to destroy the environment instead of preserving it for future generations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWGrc0eHLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWGrc0eHLw

by gspr 5y ago

29athrowaway 5y ago

Someone has to do it. The real danger is preserving and defending the irrationality behind the status quo. While rational people care about the environment, irrational self-centered people celebrate Burning Man, travel around the world for conferences that could be done online and buy thousands of single use plastic items for Halloween only to throw them away the next day. Reduce, reuse, recycle. In that order. Take the environment into consideration when making decisions. Everyone knows what they have to do. Fucking do it. No more fucking unjustified air travel (is your family dying? no? then don't fucking travel), excessive packaging, single use plastics for non medical reasons, stupid events that can be done online, no more snail mail spam. No more bullshit. Did you travel to an exotic destination this year? I don't fucking care. I do care about the environment though. Send polluters to jail, ruin them economically, shame the fuck out of them. Your value as perceived by society should not be how much you pollute or help destroy the environment. Fuck marketing, fuck buying shit you do not need, fuck the narcissism and vanity. Live within fucking environmental budgets.

sanedigital 5y ago
Somewhat ironically, the consumption you decry here is what powers the economy that, in turn, funds advancements that make our living more sustainable.
- 29athrowaway 5y ago
  What the fuck are you talking about? Are you aware that there were cultures here in the Americas that were able to preserve the environment intact for 10,000 years? Ironically, the new arrivals here claim that Native Americans were somehow unproductive and mismanaged their territory with inefficient farming practices. Well, those claims will not age very gracefully once all the aquifers are pumped dry and soil finally becomes sterile in a few decades. All of it, in about 500 years. Good job. None of the "advancements" you mention are actually necessary, or can actually be called advancements. For something to be called an advancement it would need to be better that what preceded it. How is precisely a global clusterfuck/extinction event better than what existed before? How can being decades away from total ecological collapse be better than living in a fucking paradise full of biodiversity in perfect ecological balance? The only advancement necessary to achieve sustainability is keeping your ego in check and have a reciprocal relationship with nature. Go to an Indian reservation and listen to the people who managed to survive here for 10,000 years without causing a cascading ecological disaster. Try to understand the philosophical differences between your culture and theirs, and understand which of those differences cause you to destroy the environment instead of preserving it for future generations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWGrc0eHLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWGrc0eHLw